Have we finally given up?

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Without casting judgement on whether it is for better or worse, have we finally lost the Everton Football Club of the last couple of decades? The one that tried to maintain the old footballing values whilst still persevering to compete with those capable of winning silverware merely by producing the chequebook, the one that put team spirit and a feel for the Club on a par with ability, and one that acted with class and dignity in all footballing matters?

The trend towards aligning with everyone else in the chase for success has been evidenced since the departure of Martinez, most recently with the merrygoround of managers at GP, the tapping up of Silva last year, and now the blatant demotion of younger talent in the wake of yesterdays foreign signings.

Again, I'm not suggesting this is necessarily all for the worse. Heaven knows we've suffered enough under the 'plucky Everton' culture. But there is still a tinge of sadness in now just joining the rest in the unseemly quest for success.

I bloody hope so, I'll have 80's Everton please.
 
The great Alan Ball. Unfortunately when we sold him it was also a record fee.

Let's just hope this squad gels quickly so that whatever 11 is on the field at any time operate as a smooth exciting team.
 
Without casting judgement on whether it is for better or worse, have we finally lost the Everton Football Club of the last couple of decades? The one that tried to maintain the old footballing values whilst still persevering to compete with those capable of winning silverware merely by producing the chequebook, the one that put team spirit and a feel for the Club on a par with ability, and one that acted with class and dignity in all footballing matters?

The trend towards aligning with everyone else in the chase for success has been evidenced since the departure of Martinez, most recently with the merrygoround of managers at GP, the tapping up of Silva last year, and now the blatant demotion of younger talent in the wake of yesterdays foreign signings.

Again, I'm not suggesting this is necessarily all for the worse. Heaven knows we've suffered enough under the 'plucky Everton' culture. But there is still a tinge of sadness in now just joining the rest in the unseemly quest for success.

One of the things that has always held us back is exactly what you are talking about. The most important thing that we must do is change and adapt to what is required to actually, properly take part in football at the highest level. Our main objective should and must be to win every league/competition we are in.
 
Given up :lol:

Kept with true times you mean? Follow the OPs stance and we end up in championship.

The premier league does not have time for “old fashioned” methods nowadays.
 
Without casting judgement on whether it is for better or worse, have we finally lost the Everton Football Club of the last couple of decades? The one that tried to maintain the old footballing values whilst still persevering to compete with those capable of winning silverware merely by producing the chequebook, the one that put team spirit and a feel for the Club on a par with ability, and one that acted with class and dignity in all footballing matters?

The trend towards aligning with everyone else in the chase for success has been evidenced since the departure of Martinez, most recently with the merrygoround of managers at GP, the tapping up of Silva last year, and now the blatant demotion of younger talent in the wake of yesterdays foreign signings.

Again, I'm not suggesting this is necessarily all for the worse. Heaven knows we've suffered enough under the 'plucky Everton' culture. But there is still a tinge of sadness in now just joining the rest in the unseemly quest for success.
We were the Mersey Millionaires.

A lot of this 'The Everton Way' nonsense was ok for when we were 'Plucky Little Everton' but maybe we need to show that little bit of nastiness to move forward.

I do get where you are coming from, mind!
But I'd say that if you think we as a club are loosing our identity, the. I'd challenge you to take a look at what EitC have been achieving of late.

While we may be still finding our identity on the pitch, our identity off the pitch and within the back room is very strong.

Perhaps look at it as an evolution?
While it's nice to be considered as a "good old fashioned football club", as I've mentioned before, this "Everton way" has brought us nought for nearly a quarter of a century.

To me, who remembers Everton winning things (only just) "The Everton Way" should mean success.
 
Thank God for Farhad Moshiri. He deserves to win something....

Anything. A league cup doesn't matter.

And Bill will get the praise
 
Without casting judgement on whether it is for better or worse, have we finally lost the Everton Football Club of the last couple of decades? The one that tried to maintain the old footballing values whilst still persevering to compete with those capable of winning silverware merely by producing the chequebook, the one that put team spirit and a feel for the Club on a par with ability, and one that acted with class and dignity in all footballing matters?

The trend towards aligning with everyone else in the chase for success has been evidenced since the departure of Martinez, most recently with the merrygoround of managers at GP, the tapping up of Silva last year, and now the blatant demotion of younger talent in the wake of yesterdays foreign signings.

Again, I'm not suggesting this is necessarily all for the worse. Heaven knows we've suffered enough under the 'plucky Everton' culture. But there is still a tinge of sadness in now just joining the rest in the unseemly quest for success.

While i respect your views.Class and dignity has only bought 1 trophy to the Goodison trophy cabinet, in the last 30 years.What's there to be sad about?This club is finally starting to wake up, and act like a football club that is a relevant player in the modern market again.There won't be any tinge of sadness of me, if we finally win a long awaited trophy.The old days are over, and believe me it's for the best.
 
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Without casting judgement on whether it is for better or worse, have we finally lost the Everton Football Club of the last couple of decades? The one that tried to maintain the old footballing values whilst still persevering to compete with those capable of winning silverware merely by producing the chequebook, the one that put team spirit and a feel for the Club on a par with ability, and one that acted with class and dignity in all footballing matters?

The trend towards aligning with everyone else in the chase for success has been evidenced since the departure of Martinez, most recently with the merrygoround of managers at GP, the tapping up of Silva last year, and now the blatant demotion of younger talent in the wake of yesterdays foreign signings.

Again, I'm not suggesting this is necessarily all for the worse. Heaven knows we've suffered enough under the 'plucky Everton' culture. But there is still a tinge of sadness in now just joining the rest in the unseemly quest for success.
God I hope so
 
I can't agree with the OP about us and the way our club has and is being run lately, we simply need to step up or be left behind.
If the sentiments expressed, were related to the way football has evolved generally through the premiership, then I could agree in part.
I also find the 'grandad' type comments a bit cringy. Allied to this is the 'Mersey millionaires' label, which isn't what some think it means.
Like it or not, we are 'old money' and we have to put the 'nouveaux rich' to the sword. We'll probably only be able to do that by playing them at their own game (although with less money but hopefully, a bit more class).
 
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