barneygumble
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Spent the whole day yesterday walking round town, looking for a place I could go, and watch all the games on Sunday.
£25 later, and I got a table in the Baltic.
Koff Southgate.
Group D: England, Croatia, Scotland, Czech Republic
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Spent the whole day yesterday walking round town, looking for a place I could go, and watch all the games on Sunday.
£25 later, and I got a table in the Baltic.
Koff Southgate.
Billy Dean
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Really struggling to see why everyone thinks England are favourites. They haven't done anything since the WC to merit being called favourites IMO. Apart from a couple of admittedly good wins against Spain and Croatia which were I think 2-3 years ago now.
They are about 5th fave by my reckoning
Not read anyone who thinks we're favourites yet?
barneygumble
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I'd have all 3 teams from Group F above them, Belgium and Spain would get nice draws in L16 if they win their groups too (I believe).
England will come up against France/Germany/Portugal in R16 at Wembley, if they win their group. Do you really think Southgate is capable of beating any of those? I think following that it could end up being Germany, Spain, France, Belgium in the knockouts if they win the group.
No Chance.
Billy Dean
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Agreed. At least 3-4 better teams than them IMO
Billy Dean
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All im hearing in the Media is that we’re favourites. Even the usually sensible media
I wouldn’t blame it on Southgate I just don’t think we’re as good as those teams really. Although he has beaten 3 big teams since the World Cup.
Dunno where you're reading lol
Billy Dean
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Guardian (apart from Jonathan Wilson) for one
BlueStevie35
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Last 3 results against Germany - 3-2 win, 1-0 defeat, 0-0 draw
Last 3 v France - 1-1 draw (Euro 2012), 2-0 win, 3-2 defeat
Last 3 v Portugal - 2-2 draw (Euro 04), 0-0 draw (WC 06), 1-0 win
barneygumble
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But what these three sides have, is the knowhow of playing under pressure in big tournaments and actually winning.
France and Germany are the last two title holders of the World Cup, Portugal won the last Euros. I just think that when you're coming into games like that, will Mbappe, Griezmann etc have the same level of nervousness? Pressure? Not for me, they've been there and handled it.
England are without doubt, the team with the most pressure on them (alongside Belgium), to produce in this tournament, and with a potential of playing all but one game at Wembley.
I'm also not being an arse, but is it really fair to draw up recent records, when they're spanning back 17 years? In 2004 Huddersfield, Hull and Swansea were in the 4th tier, have all since made the top flight, two made europe and they've all subsequently been relegated again. My point is football changes.
I want England to succeed, but they're coming up against sides who've proven they can step up, on the big stage, when it matters.
barneygumble
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Not immediately blaming Southgate, but he's shooting himself in the foot immediately if he doesn't start his front three as Grealish-Kane-Foden.
If you aren't starting them, you're in an instant disadvantage, and I can't see him not selecting Rashford and Sterling.
Yeh, if it was a better manager (do not rate Southgate in the slightest), then I would have more faith in the team.
To be honest, I don't see England winning their group let alone the tournament.
duncs pigeon
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Just think it the amount of people who back them brings the odds down. Realistically I think we are about 5th fav. Also a very tough side of the draw.
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