orchard
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Nice leaflet Bruce.
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Nice leaflet Bruce.
It's backed with tin foil too so has practical uses as well as informational uses.
davek
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She sounds like a safe bet to determine whether any infringement on economic and social standards will occur.
https://euobserver.com/justice/122266
http://www.thepressproject.net/arti...detention-centres-for-immigrants-and-refugees
Nice find Bruce. The assurances of the clearly neutral Ms Malmstrom put all our minds at rest.
orchard
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That's a shame, those that like the propaganda pulp are more in need of the foil.
Perhaps we could attend to facts rather than cheap clichéd point-scoring?
She sounds like a safe bet to determine whether any infringement on economic and social standards will occur.
https://euobserver.com/justice/122266
http://www.thepressproject.net/arti...detention-centres-for-immigrants-and-refugees
Nice find Bruce. The assurances of the clearly neutral Ms Malmstrom put all our minds at rest.
Goodness Dave, you must be struggling for ports in the storm if you're dismissing the Swedish now as well as the Greeks.
Like facts from the person leading the negotiations you mean?
davek
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Swedes are inherently progressive? Bit racist that.
No Bruce, just a cursory glance at the web identifies Malmstrom (how do I delicately put this?) as a bit of a right wing fruitcake.
That 'mythbusting' pdf file you linked suddenly looks a bit flimsy given the author.
Oh well. Do you have anything more reputable?
orchard
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yeah, I'll quote Monbiot or someone instead as I'm sure they have a much better understanding of what's going on in the negotiations.All of the texts from the negotiations (of this 'secret' treaty) are on the EU website
http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=1230
Knock yourself out. I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll find something that will indicate the end of the world as we know it.
Mate, you don't want anything of the sort, you want something to confirm your belief that the world is going to end and the nasty corporations are going to own the NHS. I'm sure Monbiot or his ilk can provide you with a ready supply of that and it'll make you feel great.
orchard
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davek
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You dont have to quote anyone you feel is at the opposite end of the spectrum to Malmstrom, just someone who clearly isn't a free market stooge.
Not much to ask really.
You fellas are great. Originally the rationale for TTIP causing the sky to fall in was that the negotiations were done in secret so they must have lots to hide. Then the text from the negotiations is made public and the sky is still falling in because the negotiators are dodgy stooges who can't be trusted not to smear every page with lies.
It's brilliant
I don't think they are lying, and have no reason to do so. If you do, then I'm sure you'll find plenty of crackpots to support your theory.
The recent events in Greece have shown how much democracy actually matters when it threatens to get in the way of capitalism. Not a jot.
davek
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You brought TTIP into the thread and failed to sustain your point.
That's it really.
It was actually @orchard and @magicjuan Dave, but as you were. If you want to suggest things are lies before they've even materialised then go right ahead.
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