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[Nymzee]

Officer suspended over 'kneeling on neck' during arrest

A deputy commissioner calls footage of the arrest in Islington "extremely disturbing".

www.bbc.co.uk

Looks like our police do it, too.

Was just coming to post this.

Is the neck kneeling a submission technique taught in the forces?

 

[Tubey]

But... why didn't he comply?

Don't get me wrong, that police officer has overreacted and is a complete idiot, but... yeah, why didn't he comply?

EDIT:



If this is true then fair enough. I don't know the law around traffic stops in the US.

Just seemed odd to me what he was doing, but obviously still didn't deserve that level of response regardless.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Del-boy]

Was just coming to post this.

Is the neck kneeling a submission technique taught in the forces?

It’s not a technique used by police in the UK, however the restraint techniques used are pretty poor to be honest.

The officer in the videos knee is near to guys neck however it doesn’t look as if he is applying force down on him.

The copper also looks quite young and might be new in the job. Having a hostile crowd doesn’t help anyone. The cops are probably fearful of them doing something so are even more on edge.

policing in this country is now reaching a serious point. The main stream media seem determined to whip up how racist the police are. In my opinion I don’t believe the police are racist as an institution.
The front line cops must be asking themselves what is the point in stopping/arresting people in the street.

only going to go one way, a sharp rise in violent crime.

 

[PhilM]

It’s not a technique used by police in the UK, however the restraint techniques used are pretty poor to be honest.

The officer in the videos knee is near to guys neck however it doesn’t look as if he is applying force down on him.

The copper also looks quite young and might be new in the job. Having a hostile crowd doesn’t help anyone. The cops are probably fearful of them doing something so are even more on edge.

policing in this country is now reaching a serious point. The main stream media seem determined to whip up how racist the police are. In my opinion I don’t believe the police are racist as an institution.
The front line cops must be asking themselves what is the point in stopping/arresting people in the street.

only going to go one way, a sharp rise in violent crime.

It's not particular clear but if it is on his neck then it appears to only be for a very short period and as you say without force - it looks more like it's on his head!

What I do always find perverse is the lack of two major points being highlighted by the media: any arrest is a use of force; it is an offence to resist detainment.

'Take hold of them to show that they are detained - their liberty has been taken away from them'. Putting your hands on someone is the lowest required force.

Subsequently, how much force is used by the arresting officer after their detainment is primarily decided by the person who is being detained and not the officer.

If they resist, they are necessitating not equal force but the officer must exceed their force to subdue and detain. If you do not resist, there is no need for force.

Someone who has not been in such a situation understand just how bloody hard it is! As you point out, if questions keep arising then cops will stop doing arresting.

 

[Del-boy]

It's not particular clear but if it is on his neck then it appears to only be for a very short period and as you say without force - it looks more like it's on his head!

What I do always find perverse is the lack of two major points being highlighted by the media: any arrest is a use of force; it is an offence to resist detainment.

'Take hold of them to show that they are detained - their liberty has been taken away from them'. Putting your hands on someone is the lowest required force.

Subsequently, how much force is used by the arresting officer after their detainment is primarily decided by the person who is being detained and not the officer.

If they resist, they are necessitating not equal force but the officer must exceed their force to subdue and detain. If you do not resist, there is no need for force.

Someone who has not been in such a situation understand just how bloody hard it is! As you point out, if questions keep arising then cops will stop doing arresting.

Agreed. And because of what the main stream media show, comments from politicians and weak police leaders people see not complying as some sort of right.

I have seen people violently resist arrest for the most minor things. This of course results in more force being applied by the police.

Like I said it will come to the point where officers will just say what’s the point.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Agreed. And because of what the main stream media show, comments from politicians and weak police leaders people see not complying as some sort of right.

I have seen people violently resist arrest for the most minor things. This of course results in more force being applied by the police.

Like I said it will come to the point where officers will just say what’s the point.

There is of course a balance to be made but don't think "let us use choke-holds or else" is it.

 

[sdk]

HOW WILL NYC SURVIVE WITHOUT THE INTERCESSION OF WESTCHESTER'S FINEST??

Whenever social concern turns to police abuses, you can count on police organizations to turn into hysterics warning of imminent abyss.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

Simply banning chokeholds won’t do anything positive. It will probably lead to more violence in all honesty. It’s on par with defunding the police.

Qualified immunity needs to be redefined already and police need to be discouraged from constantly harassing impoverished communities with petty fines. They specifically target these people and that needs to be put to a halt.

 

[Walken]

Thought I'd put this in here, fine words from du plessis and a sad story from ntini. I'm sure the gammon will be along to tell the black man when he is allowed to feel marginalised

Cricket: Makhaya Ntini on a 'lonely' career while Faf du Plessis reacts to BLM

South Africa cricket's first black African player Makhaya Ntini on feeling lonely during his career and ex-captain Faf du Plessis admits past mistakes on racism.

www.bbc.com

 

[Minimeister]

Thought I'd put this in here, fine words from du plessis and a sad story from ntini. I'm sure the gammon will be along to tell the black man when he is allowed to feel marginalised

Cricket: Makhaya Ntini on a 'lonely' career while Faf du Plessis reacts to BLM

South Africa cricket's first black African player Makhaya Ntini on feeling lonely during his career and ex-captain Faf du Plessis admits past mistakes on racism.

www.bbc.com

Great quote from that and something we may all have been guily of:

"I have gotten it wrong before. Good intentions were failed by a lack of perspective when I said on a platform that - I don't see colour. In my ignorance I silenced the struggles of others by placing my own view on it.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[peteblue]

This is not a great look for the Democrats, losing control of cities.....

 

[Grinch]

This is not a great look for the Democrats, losing control of cities.....

Just wait till they send social workers out to calm people down lol

 

[sdk]

This is not a great look for the Democrats, losing control of cities.....

Our cities are only out of control in the imaginations of pundits and their online imitators, many of whom would view a candlelight vigil as an anarcho-looter riot.

Trump didn't send federal agents into Portland to restore or maintain order, but for purely political reasons. Don't be a gullible rube or you'll find yourself halfway to being American.