Current Affairs George Floyd and Minneapolis Unrest

[Tubey]

Genuinely stupid, for so many reasons.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Genuinely stupid, for so many reasons.

Columbus was an absolute rotter, like. See one example below.

 

[Tubey]

Columbus was an absolute rotter, like. See one example below.

Yes he was. Over 500 years ago.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Yes he was. Over 500 years ago.

I can't say I'm enormously worked up about a little light getting shone on his character and potentially a more balanced appraisal coming from it.

It's not like there are hordes of outraged Columbus supporters waving the flag of Castille and frothing about their heritage either. Good clean fun.

 

[Prevenger17]

I can't say I'm enormously worked up about a little light getting shone on his character and potentially a more balanced appraisal coming from it.

It's not like there are hordes of outraged Columbus supporters waving the flag of Castille and frothing about their heritage either. Good clean fun.

We all knew Columbus was an arsehole though didn't we? I mean it's not some mad secret

 

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[roydo]

Why?

 

[Osamabindiesel]

Again while we are supposed to be discussing these serious issues we are being sidetracked by statues and autonomous zones and who wore blackface in the 90’s. Let that sink in.

 

[Tubey]

Why?

Because society has legitimised extremism over the last several months.

People don't realise it yet but race relations are in the toilet and all progress made over decades has been flushed away.

Now we have a two sides, both extreme, operating their own versions of 'thought police', not tolerating anything except strict adherence to their own side. So you'll see one side celebrating that video, another side condemning it, yet would have the complete opposite opinion if that was a bunch of MAGA supporters.

The world is on fire right now and it's because there's no effective leadership in any major Western democracy.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

Because society has legitimised extremism over the last several months.

People don't realise it yet but race relations are in the toilet and all progress made over decades has been flushed away.

Now we have a two sides, both extreme, operating their own versions of 'thought police', not tolerating anything except strict adherence to their own side. So you'll see one side celebrating that video, another side condemning it, yet would have the complete opposite opinion if that was a bunch of MAGA supporters.

The world is on fire right now and it's because there's no effective leadership in any major Western democracy.

The two party system exists for this purpose. To maintain the status quo. As long as people are divided they can’t unite and enforce change.

 

[roydo]

Because society has legitimised extremism over the last several months.

People don't realise it yet but race relations are in the toilet and all progress made over decades has been flushed away.

Now we have a two sides, both extreme, operating their own versions of 'thought police', not tolerating anything except strict adherence to their own side. So you'll see one side celebrating that video, another side condemning it, yet would have the complete opposite opinion if that was a bunch of MAGA supporters.

The world is on fire right now and it's because there's no effective leadership in any major Western democracy.

I just dont see why fat ignorant white Mericans walking on a road with assault rifles is seen as a normal or good thing.

 

[roydo]

The two party system exists for this purpose. To maintain the status quo. As long as people are divided they can’t unite and enforce change.

Why cant folk unite and just get along?

 

[Tubey]

The two party system exists for this purpose. To maintain the status quo. As long as people are divided they can’t unite and enforce change.

No not necessarily. Its been that way for decades but there was always room for the middle ground. Hence why you had relatively sensible people like John McCain for example.

The problem has been the increasing prominence of extremes. For example, you're either a full on left wing socialist or a Tory - you can't be centre left Labour, because that's not "real" Labour; your just pretending - a red Tory.

Similarly, you can't just believe trans women are trans women and not biological women, because that's makes you "transphobic" - you either accept they are definitely women because they chose to be one or you are a bigot.

There's absolutely no middle ground on anything.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

Why cant folk unite and just get along?

Agreed. It honestly makes me very very sad. Neither side are willing to call out their own either so you see some pretty depraved stuff.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

No not necessarily. Its been that way for decades but there was always room for the middle ground. Hence why you had relatively sensible people like John McCain for example.

The problem has been the increasing prominence of extremes. For example, you're either a full on left wing socialist or a Tory - you can't be centre left Labour, because that's not "real" Labour; your just pretending - a red Tory.

Similarly, you can't just believe trans women are trans women and not biological women, because that's makes you "transphobic" - you either accept they are definitely women because they chose to be one or you are a bigot.

There's absolutely no middle ground on anything.

If you have two extremes pulling you in either direction, you will stay in the middle. I don’t think the two party system was originally meant to be this way, but it evolved over time into establishment turds getting blocked by Congress and nothing every really gets done. In some ways it’s good to have checks and balances, but you have to accept that both sides are designed to disagree on just about anything.