Current Affairs George Floyd and Minneapolis Unrest

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peteblue said:
The man claimed that someone had recently put up a noose in the garage. He involved the Police and even the FBI. The ‘noose’ turned out to be a garage door pull, which had been there since last October.....what would you call it....
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He claimed it because his own team and nascar told him someone had put one there... he wasn’t at the track when it was found and reported and it wasn’t him who reported it to the FBI.

Facts like this matter in sensitive topics like this, sadly none of the people criticising him seem to care about the facts... makes you wonder why.
 
They're not looking for offence, Pete - they're fearing the worst because that's what a lifetime of racial oppression and persecution has taught them to do. So what if they get it wrong every now and then? That's bound to happen. There's still a mountain of racist acts against BAME people that go unreported every single day.

Funny, you'd think if they were so quick to take offence then they'd report everything, wouldn't you?

As it is, they take loads stoically on the chin without getting "uppity."
 
mill said:
It was a door pulley that had been fashioned into a noose for whatever reason.

So do you think it was unreasonable?
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It was a non event blown up out of all proportion which hit mainstream media and no doubt wound other folk up because some want to see racism everywhere.....
 
peteblue said:
It was a non event blown up out of all proportion which hit mainstream media and no doubt wound other folk up because some want to see racism everywhere.....
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you’ve answered a different question there.

do you think the person who reported it was being unreasonable?
 
peteblue said:
It was a non event blown up out of all proportion which hit mainstream media and no doubt wound other folk up because some want to see racism everywhere.....
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Again context is important.

- NASCAR had just banned the confederate flag after Bubba Wallace had called for it to be removed, this was the first race since then.
- In the week leading up to the race Wallace had been targeted online for lots of abuse over the banning
- There were protests about the banning outside Talladega on the Friday prior to the race weekend
- NASCAR has a very long history of racism within its fanbase, especially at tracks like Talladega & Darlington
- Most people were expecting some kind of backlash at Talladega

So whilst Richard Petty Motorsports and NASCAR wrongly jumped to conclusions (it’s a very big blunder to make, no doubt) the climate within which they did so makes it more understandable than if the accusations had come out of nowhere.
 
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Clint Planet said:
They're not looking for offence, Pete - they're fearing the worst because that's what a lifetime of racial oppression and persecution has taught them to do. So what if they get it wrong every now and then? That's bound to happen. There's still a mountain of racist acts against BAME people that go unreported every single day.

Funny, you'd think if they were so quick to take offence then they'd report everything, wouldn't you?

As it is, they take loads stoically on the chin without getting "uppity."
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I even said ‘probably not so in this case’, before people then tried to turn my comment into some form of derogatory racist view. People are now actively looking to be offended, and some are actively looking to be offended on behalf of others whether they wish them to or not.....
 
longers said:
Again context is important.

- NASCAR had just banned the confederate flag after Bubba Wallace had called for it to be removed, this was the first race since then.
- In the week leading up to the race Wallace had been targeted online for lots of abuse over the banning
- There were protests about the banning outside Talladega on the Friday prior to the race weekend
- NASCAR has a very long history of racism within its fanbase, especially at tracks like Talladega & Darlington
- Most people were expecting some kind of backlash at Talladega

So whilst Richard Petty Motorsports and NASCAR wrongly jumped to conclusions (it’s a very big blunder to make, no doubt) the climate within which they did so makes it more understandable than if the accusations had come out of nowhere.
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And that is fair enough. But as you say, the climate is what is driving people to ‘see’ or just imagine intolerances....
 
peteblue said:
I even said ‘probably not so in this case’, before people then tried to turn my comment into some form of derogatory racist view. People are now actively looking to be offended, and some are actively looking to be offended on behalf of others whether they wish them to or not.....
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Quick to take offence, there, Pete. :dodgy:

No one's looking to take offence, they're looking to root out a scourge on our society at a time when it suddenly looks so much more possible than even a few months ago. In pursuing that, a few mistakes might be made along the journey.

Get some perspective, for heaven's sake.
 
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