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[Zatara]

I believe so minus the number your state brings. But the left doesn't like the electoral college and the right does. Honestly needs to be a different way besides a popular vote or a tweaking of the electoral vote because every state is different and has much different needs and wants.

The number of electoral college votes are assigned based on number of representatives in Congress and senates, yes. (Which in turn is roughly based on relative populations of each state but a little more complicated).

Within each state, who the vote goes to is based on who wins the popular vote within the state. However, votes are allocated winner takes all (and not by proportion of the vote) which is key.

Ie if one candidate gets 51% of the vote within a state, all electoral college votes are allocated to the candidate. Hence why minorities are underrepresented on a regular basis. As generally speaking, the population is 70% white.

(Is your first point trying to say the electoral college system is not racist because slave owning states were against it? It’s kind of irrelevant either way as it was designed before minorities could vote.....)

Arent there also faithless electors (not sure thats the correct term)...

E.g in 2004 wasnt there an anonymous faithless elector

Arent there 12 potential states where faithless electors are unpunished?


Not sure on this...but i believed this to all be a case by case state issue to respond to @mill 's initial point.

Btw my point about slave holding vs free states was merely to show that this was initially a free state decision to move to the electoral college system.

Feel free to tell me im wrong.

Mostly true - However, Maine and Nebraska split their electoral college, with the overall winner getting a set amount, then the winner of each district also getting a set amount.

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[ForeverBlue92]

Looks like a typical night out in Runcorn that

 

[Jebus_lives]

If were talking about institutional racism you have Japanese and non-Japanese based upon processes which allow rights to japanese but not to non japanese.

Youre trying to establish whether different races are treated differently in terms of rights?

Id say its Japanese or non-japanese which defines your rights.

Im unsure what youre trying to achieve here. Youve mentioned "what youre trying to argue here"

I frankly am simply responding to your questions. Im not sure if youre looking for a view on something?

Theres plenty of information on japanese vs non japanese rights.

So if

you have Japanese and non-Japanese based upon processes which allow rights to japanese but not to non japanese.

and

Id say its Japanese or non-japanese which defines your rights.

then would it not be true that if you are black in Japan you are institutionslly discriminated against?

And if that is true...and the same is present in Russia, U.S.A, U.K etc etc does it not start to tell you something?

 

[Grinch]

Arent there also faithless electors (not sure thats the correct term)...

E.g in 2004 wasnt there an anonymous faithless elector

Arent there 12 potential states where faithless electors are unpunished?


Not sure on this...but i believed this to all be a case by case state issue to respond to @mill 's initial point.

Btw my point about slave holding vs free states was merely to show that this was initially a free state decision to move to the electoral college system.

Feel free to tell me im wrong.



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Mill may be able to give you a better answer. Im just a dumb dumb when it comes to the behind the scenes stuff. lol

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Were going back decades. Its a politics A level split between US / UK politics.

So yeah both.

Does it really matter?

So you haven't got an A-Level in US politics then. (And that's even allowing for the claim that a politics A-Level would be split (the implication being split evenly) between UK and US Politics, which is, in itself, pretty absurd)

And yes, it matters.

 

[zzr45]

Were going back decades. Its a politics A level split between US / UK politics.

So yeah both.

Does it really matter?

Look mate I know because I set every A level exam ever.

I mean I don’t, I just skimmed through a list of courses offered by my local college once but that’s the same thing basically.

 

[mill]

Arent there also faithless electors (not sure thats the correct term)...

E.g in 2004 wasnt there an anonymous faithless elector

Arent there 12 potential states where faithless electors are unpunished?


Not sure on this...but i believed this to all be a case by case state issue to respond to @mill 's initial point.

Btw my point about slave holding vs free states was merely to show that this was initially a free state decision to move to the electoral college system.

Feel free to tell me im wrong.



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Could you explain why you think the information you have provided here is an argument against my point that the electoral college system is institutionally racist as it under represents minorities?

In the last 25 years there have been two examples of faithless electors.

2004 there was 1 faithless elector. Believed to be a mistake as they pledge for ‘John Ewards’ rather than John Kelly.

In 2000, one member did not cast their vote as a protest against D.C. not getting voting representation in Congress.

Your point being ...?

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Goat]

Ive got an A level in Everton foruming.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Ive got an A level in Everton foruming.

I didn’t think you passed that?

 

[Zatara]

So if

you have Japanese and non-Japanese based upon processes which allow rights to japanese but not to non japanese.

and

Id say its Japanese or non-japanese which defines your rights.

then would it not be true that if you are black in Japan you are institutionslly discriminated against?

And if that is true...and the same is present in Russia, U.S.A, U.K etc etc does it not start to tell you something?

I think youre trying to find a reason to highlight a specific link with racism towards black ethnicity on a country to country basis. Which you would then be able to show as a global issue.

My view is that this is quite reasonable and an interesting goal depending on the countries you look at and the criteria you set.

It depends i think on the criteria you have to compare possible institutional racism across the board.

I think you could also do the same across all races with differing and interesting results.

 

[Goat]

I didn’t think you passed that?

How dare you.

 

[mill]

Arent there also faithless electors (not sure thats the correct term)...

E.g in 2004 wasnt there an anonymous faithless elector

Arent there 12 potential states where faithless electors are unpunished?


Not sure on this...but i believed this to all be a case by case state issue to respond to @mill 's initial point.

Btw my point about slave holding vs free states was merely to show that this was initially a free state decision to move to the electoral college system.

Feel free to tell me im wrong.



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Actually let me pin you down on this rather than allow you to deflect from the point.

Do you think the example I gave regarding the 2016 election and minority underrepresentation is an example of institutional racism? If not, why?