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To be fair Elizabeth Warren has made a muppet out of herself over this whole thing, she would have been better to just not have the test... she's kinda self owned herself which is a shame as she seems pretty decent person from my limited experience of her.

I agree, she was silly to have thought that it would somehow come out well for her. But her DNA does show that she is more native american than the average American (i.e., she has native american ancestry)...had to dig into the technical report to find this, but it is pretty conclusive in my mind. More generally, I never understood people's fascination with claiming some small fraction of a given ancestry (e.g., my great great great uncle was Cherokee).
 
I agree, she was silly to have thought that it would somehow come out well for her. But her DNA does show that she is more native american than the average American (i.e., she has native american ancestry)...had to dig into the technical report to find this, but it is pretty conclusive in my mind. More generally, I never understood people's fascination with claiming some small fraction of a given ancestry (e.g., my great great great uncle was Cherokee).
She could have handled it better but she was under a lot of pressure to clear it up locally. I hate the staged video stuff. Hopefully it will prove worthwhile in the long run.
 
I agree, she was silly to have thought that it would somehow come out well for her. But her DNA does show that she is more native american than the average American (i.e., she has native american ancestry)...had to dig into the technical report to find this, but it is pretty conclusive in my mind. More generally, I never understood people's fascination with claiming some small fraction of a given ancestry (e.g., my great great great uncle was Cherokee).
but even thats not true. She actually has less indiand blood than average American does lol
By her standads and procents every American could identify as an native American.
 
but even thats not true. She actually has less indiand blood than average American does lol
By her standads and procents every American could identify as an native American.

No, what you are repeating is fake news perpetuated by Briebart. She has a long segment of native American DNA on chromosome 10, which can only be accounted for by an ancestor about 6-8 generations back. The stuff about her ancestry being indistinguishable from the average american is based on a misunderstanding of how genetic tests work.

See here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...s-wrong/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ec01d1ac9db1 (and yes, this is a left wing paper, but I assure you they got it right this time).
 
No, what you are repeating is fake news perpetuated by Briebart. She has a long segment of native American DNA on chromosome 10, which can only be accounted for by an ancestor about 6-8 generations back. The stuff about her ancestry being indistinguishable from the average american is based on a misunderstanding of how genetic tests work.

See here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...s-wrong/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ec01d1ac9db1 (and yes, this is a left wing paper, but I assure you they got it right this time).
She lied about her mother and dad and benefitted cause of that lie. Test shows there may be native ancestor in tee bloodline 6 to 10 generations back. Even Cherokee Nation says she's a fraud and that test doesnt make her native.
 
She lied about her mother and dad and benefitted cause of that lie. Test shows there may be native ancestor in tee bloodline 6 to 10 generations back. Even Cherokee Nation says she's a fraud and that test doesnt make her native.

I'm not commenting on her claims to a given native American tribe (I did see the Cherokee statement) or using that claim to gain entry into Harvard--that's a separate issue, and politically damaging one as well. I'm just saying that she does, in fact, have more Native American DNA than the average American (this was the part that was wrongly reported in the media) and Trump said he would pay 1000000 to a charity of her choice if she had Native American DNA, which she does.
 
She lied about her mother and dad and benefitted cause of that lie. Test shows there may be native ancestor in tee bloodline 6 to 10 generations back. Even Cherokee Nation says she's a fraud and that test doesnt make her native.
Suddenly the Right are the arbiters and protectors of truth when it comes to politicians' statements. lol
 
congrats on your latest article, @dholliday!

Stoning Our Neighbors to Death Makes the Corn Grow High, and Elitist Liberals Should Stop Attacking This Traditional Value
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles...-should-stop-attacking-this-traditional-value

Since Biblical times, stoning people to death has been a horrible punishment reserved for the worst criminals. But now, in PC liberal America, the real stoning to death is being done against innocent Americans who organize lotteries that stone people to death. Liberal activists want to do away with the traditional stoning lottery. Apparently, in PC America, a “safe space” is one in which you aren’t stoned to death in the town square in order to increase the harvest yield. Well, count me out.

I’m sure I’m not the only one who grew up in real America and fondly remembers the entire town abuzz on June 27th. I’d get so excited that I couldn’t even sleep the night before. In the morning, we’d put on our traditional lottery suits, grab a flag or two from the flag bowl, and run down to the town square to draw our slips of paper. Every family would be there. The lottery is what brings towns together. Yes, whoever got the slip of paper with the black spot would be stoned to death, but no one forced you to live in America. Grab a rock, or get out.

Lotteries and ritual stoning are integral parts of American life. Whether or not the lottery actually increases the yearly harvest, rural working class Americans think it does. Let me be blunt: liberals who want to abolish ritual murder are the reason that Donald Trump won. If you don’t believe me, please see my last column titled “Rural Trump Voters Are Sticking by the President and Sticking by Stoning People to Death,” as well as this paper’s 100 other articles in which we interview the same handful of Trump voters slash stoning advocates in one midwestern diner over and over and over and over.

I already know what my liberal readers will say. That “lottery in June, corn be heavy soon” is a nonsense phrase and that there’s no scientific evidence that blood sacrifices increase the corn yield. Actually, there’s no scientific consensus on the question. At least one study, jointly funded by the paper slip industry and the Koch brothers, showed a 1% increase in corn production in towns that murdered at least one resident in the town square with stones, bricks, or other blunt objects. Maybe it is time for our universities to teach the controversy?

Despite being a highly paid columnist for a major metropolitan newspaper who regularly appears on network TV, I consider myself a radical outsider from the intellectual dark web. I’m constantly being oppressed for speaking the truth to the mainstream. I’ve been oppressed into a six-figure salary. Oppressed into several lucrative book deals and Fox News appearances. My podcast, There’s Nothing More Radical Than the Status Quo, has been censored into the top spot on iTunes. I don’t want to sound hyperbolic, but what has been done to me and other mainstream newspaper truth tellers like Bari Weiss and Bret Stephens is one million times worse than McCarthyism, the Holocaust, slavery, and the bombing of Hiroshima combined.

Despite all this censorship and oppression, we continue to tell the radical truths that no one can handle, namely that mainstream consensus is correct and that the status quo is the real radicalism. And we celebrate the lottery.

The attacks on the lottery are not just about stopping our American traditions. They are also about persecuting innocent men whose only crime has been stoning innocent people to death. In a recent Senate hearing, radical Democratic senators rudely grilled Mr. Summers and Mr. Graves about their town’s lottery that left Tessie Hutchinson dead in the center of town. Is there no one who will stand up for men who organize ritual stonings? Mr. Summers and Mr. Graves have been honest patriots their whole lives. They are husbands and fathers. They like beer. Leave them alone!

As the Bible says, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone,” and I for one know that Mr. Summers and Mr. Graves are entirely without sin. I say to them, “Cast that first stone” at next year’s lottery.
 
congrats on your latest article, @dholliday!

Stoning Our Neighbors to Death Makes the Corn Grow High, and Elitist Liberals Should Stop Attacking This Traditional Value
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles...-should-stop-attacking-this-traditional-value

Since Biblical times, stoning people to death has been a horrible punishment reserved for the worst criminals. But now, in PC liberal America, the real stoning to death is being done against innocent Americans who organize lotteries that stone people to death. Liberal activists want to do away with the traditional stoning lottery. Apparently, in PC America, a “safe space” is one in which you aren’t stoned to death in the town square in order to increase the harvest yield. Well, count me out.

I’m sure I’m not the only one who grew up in real America and fondly remembers the entire town abuzz on June 27th. I’d get so excited that I couldn’t even sleep the night before. In the morning, we’d put on our traditional lottery suits, grab a flag or two from the flag bowl, and run down to the town square to draw our slips of paper. Every family would be there. The lottery is what brings towns together. Yes, whoever got the slip of paper with the black spot would be stoned to death, but no one forced you to live in America. Grab a rock, or get out.

Lotteries and ritual stoning are integral parts of American life. Whether or not the lottery actually increases the yearly harvest, rural working class Americans think it does. Let me be blunt: liberals who want to abolish ritual murder are the reason that Donald Trump won. If you don’t believe me, please see my last column titled “Rural Trump Voters Are Sticking by the President and Sticking by Stoning People to Death,” as well as this paper’s 100 other articles in which we interview the same handful of Trump voters slash stoning advocates in one midwestern diner over and over and over and over.

I already know what my liberal readers will say. That “lottery in June, corn be heavy soon” is a nonsense phrase and that there’s no scientific evidence that blood sacrifices increase the corn yield. Actually, there’s no scientific consensus on the question. At least one study, jointly funded by the paper slip industry and the Koch brothers, showed a 1% increase in corn production in towns that murdered at least one resident in the town square with stones, bricks, or other blunt objects. Maybe it is time for our universities to teach the controversy?

Despite being a highly paid columnist for a major metropolitan newspaper who regularly appears on network TV, I consider myself a radical outsider from the intellectual dark web. I’m constantly being oppressed for speaking the truth to the mainstream. I’ve been oppressed into a six-figure salary. Oppressed into several lucrative book deals and Fox News appearances. My podcast, There’s Nothing More Radical Than the Status Quo, has been censored into the top spot on iTunes. I don’t want to sound hyperbolic, but what has been done to me and other mainstream newspaper truth tellers like Bari Weiss and Bret Stephens is one million times worse than McCarthyism, the Holocaust, slavery, and the bombing of Hiroshima combined.

Despite all this censorship and oppression, we continue to tell the radical truths that no one can handle, namely that mainstream consensus is correct and that the status quo is the real radicalism. And we celebrate the lottery.

The attacks on the lottery are not just about stopping our American traditions. They are also about persecuting innocent men whose only crime has been stoning innocent people to death. In a recent Senate hearing, radical Democratic senators rudely grilled Mr. Summers and Mr. Graves about their town’s lottery that left Tessie Hutchinson dead in the center of town. Is there no one who will stand up for men who organize ritual stonings? Mr. Summers and Mr. Graves have been honest patriots their whole lives. They are husbands and fathers. They like beer. Leave them alone!

As the Bible says, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone,” and I for one know that Mr. Summers and Mr. Graves are entirely without sin. I say to them, “Cast that first stone” at next year’s lottery.

thanks mate but wrong article, i'd never let a subed spell "neighbours" like that, not even an american one lol
 
Warren, whatever her missteps on DNA, has come out with some genuinely interesting policy proposals that deserve discussion.

Must call a spade a spade.

Just like Trump and his cronies may have one good idea out of 20, it's the way in which he communicates and his lack of presidentialism that ultimately proves his "unfitness" for president.

So it is with Warren. She may have 20 good ideas, but her continued calling herself native american just isn't true. Or at least not true in the way she originally meant it. Even if just optically. It hurts her message. To many, it excuses people for hating "the libs" so much because "they are just like Trump and the lying GOP."

We need to be better than this.
 
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