Current Affairs General US politics (ie, not POTUS related)

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Totally chilled photos of loads of white dudes casually doing the OK sign. Nothing to read into this at all

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Show me where this has been proven?

It hasnt. Its just an opinion whether a photo is enough, which it cant be as it can be argued both ways.

Im not commenting on opinions aside from my own that he should find a pro bono lawyer to take his case.

Then sue a lot of people.



If someone were to go online and post that a stranger is a white supremacist, racist, vigilante AND post false information about an ongoing case.

Youre saying that this (whilst not malicious) is also not going to be actionable as a case?

That Biden (and others) could simply claim its not defamation and somehow explain why they posted this information online and gave interviews stating this information?


That would be an interesting watch.

The kid may not win but he'd be taking settlements left and right.
Can it not be enough for Republicans that he killed two people and walked away scot-free? Does he also have to get rich in the process?
 
If someone were to go online and post that a stranger is a white supremacist, racist, vigilante AND post false information about an ongoing case.

Youre saying that this (whilst not malicious) is also not going to be actionable as a case?

That Biden (and others) could simply claim its not defamation and somehow explain why they posted this information online and gave interviews stating this information?


That would be an interesting watch.

The kid may not win but he'd be taking settlements left and right.

You can try and sue anyone for anything, but of your three issues there if he doesn't want to be associated with white supremacists then he should stop associating with white supremacists (as in allowing them to collect money for him, being photographed with them, or appearing on their news programmes), and if he doesn't want to be described as a vigilante then he shouldn't have taken a gun to a riot as a civilian and shot three people (after being caught on tape saying he'd shoot looters).

Nor is it particularly easy to see how something false like confusing him taking a gun across state lines to a riot to it being in a safe and then he took it to the riot is something that could generate anything more substantial than a clarification in the responsible outlet. Pretty much the most potentially libellous thing there was the one about his mum driving him to the protest, and even then it would be his mum who'd have the case there.
 
Nick Sandmann? The one who settled lawsuits of $275mil with CNN and $250mil with the Washington post?

That Nick Sandmann who is likely worth a fair amount in the millions now.

Seeing as you mentioned "its clear you dont understand the defamation/libel/slander laws in this country" then could you enlighten me as to why both of those companies settled out of court -- if it was obvious they would win then they would go to court.

"Nuisance payments" would be like those, in the millions ?

How about if he filed against Biden and individuals who have come out making false statements, surely in the US theres a way to sue people even if you dont suffer monetary loss?


Representing a private individual, I was under the impression that the lawyer just needs to prove negligence rather than actual malice in any actionable case against Biden for example.
Nick Sandmann didn't receive anything like millions from the settlements - before or after his lawyers got paid.

The media entities didn't go to court because going to court would cost them more in time and money, even though they'd assuredly win, than simply paying out small sum "nuisance payments" to end the charade.

Most legal folk I've seen and know are confident the settlements were in the low 6 figures - with 40%, most likely, going to Sandmann's lawyers.
 
Nick Sandmann didn't receive anything like millions from the settlements - before or after his lawyers got paid.

The media entities didn't go to court because going to court would cost them more in time and money, even though they'd assuredly win, than simply paying out small sum "nuisance payments" to end the charade.

Most legal folk I've seen and know are confident the settlements were in the low 6 figures - with 40%, most likely, going to Sandmann's lawyers.
I read an article that broke it down similarly. Of course “Nick Sandmann sues media for a billion dollars” or some ludicrous sum like that makes the headlines, but the settlement is always MUCH, MUCH lower.
 
An other trial going on in America at the moment the killing of Ahmaud Arbery.

I haven’t watched this case as much as the Rittenhouse one. From what I have seen it was basically a modern day lynching and anything but a guilty1st degree verdict for all would be a travesty.
Judge just made an important ruling in that case although final decision is on Monday

The judge ruled Friday afternoon that under Georgia’s old citizen’s arrest law, the one applied in this case, the arrest would have to occur right after any felony crime was committed, not days or months later.

The defense argued that the ruling guts their case.
 
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