TimHowardsBeardJuice
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On this, you are correct. He survived.
Current Affairs General US politics (ie, not POTUS related)
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To be fair, you're right. The outcome of the case and the fall out it has produced and will undoubtedly continue to produce has started this circus.
Whether the law says he murdered them or not, two people have died and I think most of us recognise his actions were morally wrong, if not criminally.
The whole thing epitomises what is wrong with US culture, gun laws and the general imbalance between what is right and wrong.
The guy with the skateboard maybe not, no, all we know is he hit him with the skateboard and tried to take the rifle and Rittenhouse shot him - both, it seems, were doing what they did in self defence.
The other person, who survived, admitted to pointing his gun at Rittenhouse's head, and Rittenhouse shot him in the arm.
It's a whole mess but I can't say I have any sympathy for any of them involved. Should he have gone down? In my opinion, yes. But that's not what matters in any justice system, it's innocent until proven gulity and the prosecution couldn't prove beyond all reasonable doubt that Rittenhouse murdered these people.
Rittenhouse put his hands up and gave himself up right in front of the police, as they were approaching the scene. You actually think police kill civilians who put their hands up? Have you actually ever stepped into America to be making these outlandish and ignorant claims?
His father lives in Kenosha. It's completely normal for him to travel across states.
I've seen that it's only a 15-min drive.
I don't understand why Americans have an obsession with owning weapons.
Zatara
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Stored the gun in his Kenosha home. There was a probe which confirmed this as said by the state attorney.
As a 17 year old, he was legally able to carry the gun as it was over 12 inches long. The gun he held was 16 inches.
The whole "his mum drove him across state lines" etc story was made up by the media...and people in positions of 'power'...
Who are now "Outraged" for being wrong.
I hope the kid has big hitting lawyers calling him day and night to sue those people.
Thats not to say I agree with him going there in the first place, or carrying a gun.
I do think those people should be taught that accuasations have consequences.
Have you looked at the facts of the case?
If guns didn't exist, Rittenhouse would have been a dead man; a 17 year old who had his entire life ahead of him. Now do you understand why guns are important? This Kyle Rittenhouse trial was a great advertisement of how important guns are in self-defence.
This.
I have no sympathy with any of the people involved but do feel for their families, obviously.
But that country, those people involved, the entire culture when it comes to guns, is mad. But it'll never change. What's the point in even being remotely arsed because they're not arsed, they'd rather have 17-year-olds able to have guns.
Have you heard the saying "you play stupid games and you win stupid prizes"?
Zatara
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The bolded part is what Im amazed about.
How can so many people in positions of power (even the now President) and prominent figures in the media accuse a (now proven innocent) 17 year old of being:
A white supremacist / Domestic terrorist
Freely and without any consequence.
Im no fan of gun carrying (on the locals side) or arson (on the rioters side) but why were so many quick to accuse him?
Those people need to be held to account.
Zatara
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On that note, back to the Everton forum.
If guns didn’t exist he wouldn’t have been there.
He travelled to a riot and armed himself with a weapon.
He put himself there by choice. Carried a weapon (because he clearly felt it was required and that he may be in danger). He wasn’t going his day and got jumped.
He got *exactly* what he wanted. (In the same way that the victims did).
Let’s not try and pretend that any of that is normal. Let’s not pretend that there is something righteous about the whole thing. Let’s not pretend there is something to celebrate here.
He went for a fight. Got one. And had to resort to the use of a deadly weapon. It might be self defence from a legal perspective but there is nothing innocent about his actions.
Absolutely no one should be coming out of this with any glory whatsoever. The whole country is an absolute [Poor language removed] show behaving as though it has some kind of higher purpose. The road it has set itself on does not lead anywhere good.
Still a little surprised that this makes this dead man a scumbag. And Rittenhouse ran into a live protest and had already shot someone, is the EMT a scumbag for raising his gun in self defence despite not even firing it? You have a fairly low bar for scumbaggery imo
I have. But I much prefer the saying, ‘Stupid people say stupid, obtuse things.’
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