Current Affairs General US politics (ie, not POTUS related)

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Here in SA voting for Mayor and City Council is underway. I went to the polls this morning and there were a half dozen cops (not in uniform) holding signs and talking to voters walking to the polls asking them to vote against Proposition B on the ballot. Proposition B is specifically an effort to remove collective bargaining rights for the police in San Antonio. Of the 5 largest cities in the state, SA is the only remaining city in Texas where the police have this right. Why is this Prop on the ballot? Because the collectively bargained contract with the police is where accountability for police officers resides so citizens got enough petitions signed to place the proposition on the ballot.

So, what were the police officers telling voters at my polling place and polling places all over town? The same thing their signs all over the city say... vote no to "defunding the police".

It's a [Poor language removed] lie but... messaging matters.
 
You keep making this claim and it's been shared with you on multiple occasions (and you've read these comments, I'm fairly certain, as you've "liked" them) that the appeal to dismiss based on Waters' comments was rejected by the trial judge and Biden's comments were made while the jury was sequestered - so they didn't hear them.

Being upset that politicians can't keep their yaps shut is fine, Pete. However, it's nothing new in big cases with political/societal weight. Please find me a trial like the Chauvin case where comments by a POTUS caused a mistrial or reversal on appeal.

Sorry, I’m obviously commenting from a U.K. view. In the U.K. this would not be tolerated. If you are saying it’s fine for US politicians to comment and wind up the populace regarding the outcome of a murder trial then I can only accept your comment.....
 
Sorry, I’m obviously commenting from a U.K. view. In the U.K. this would not be tolerated. If you are saying it’s fine for US politicians to comment and wind up the populace regarding the outcome of a murder trial then I can only accept your comment.....
I never said it was fine, Pete. It's, as I said previously, intemperate and really should be avoided. But they are politicians and, by definition, have gaping pie holes that never close.
 
I do not know this moron's backstory, but yeah, you do. You just need to be legacy and have money.
Ok sure, if you’d like to highlight the 2 or 3 out of their classes of 550+ that might get in that way that’s fine. Overall their LSATs, GPAs, and extracurriculars are the best of the best so not sure why you’d focus on a percent of a percent to try and make your point.
 
Ok sure, if you’d like to highlight the 2 or 3 out of their classes of 550+ that might get in that way that’s fine. Overall their LSATs, GPAs, and extracurriculars are the best of the best so not sure why you’d focus on a percent of a percent to try and make your point.
I was being flippant.

However, I will pedantically argue that those fields are measurements of success in the American education system, not intelligence.
 
Haha ok fine. And I’d argue that while imperfect, you can’t be stupid and have those measurements, or at best it’d be extremely rare to do so.
So...I don't even really wholly disagree, but it's been a week and I feel like getting on my horse for a moment.

I think we are far too quick to label people 'stupid' or 'intelligent' as though it is a binary state. Some people are smart about some things while being legendary fools about other stuff.

We often conflate "intelligent" with "traditionally successful from a Western economic perspective". But that really DOES NOT measure the functioning capability of someone's mental processes.

Being a good lawyer doesn't mean you're smart.
And flipping burgers doesn't make you stupid.

We also do not give enough credit for things that do not traditionally have financial value when measuring 'intelligence'. Being able to read a room, or empathize are all elements of one's mind and personality.

Basically, all of this is a way to argue:
"Stupid is as stupid does, and Ben Shapiro does stupid things, so I don't care about his qualifications?"
 
UCLA undergrad and Harvard JD. You don’t get near Harvard Law admittance without proving your intelligence.


He's a 37 year old man who uses the term SJW unironically, lives out a fantasy ideological war in his head and subsists almost entirely on the validation provided to him by other emotionally stunted dweebs. If that's intelligence, I want nothing to do with it
 
So...I don't even really wholly disagree, but it's been a week and I feel like getting on my horse for a moment.

I think we are far too quick to label people 'stupid' or 'intelligent' as though it is a binary state. Some people are smart about some things while being legendary fools about other stuff.

We often conflate "intelligent" with "traditionally successful from a Western economic perspective". But that really DOES NOT measure the functioning capability of someone's mental processes.

Being a good lawyer doesn't mean you're smart.
And flipping burgers doesn't make you stupid.


We also do not give enough credit for things that do not traditionally have financial value when measuring 'intelligence'. Being able to read a room, or empathize are all elements of one's mind and personality.

Basically, all of this is a way to argue:
"Stupid is as stupid does, and Ben Shapiro does stupid things, so I don't care about his qualifications?"
I never meant to indicate the bolded above was the case. Some of it is circumstance, some of it is choice, some of it is opportunity, and so on. You’re also absolutely right about different kinds of intelligence, and I 100% think emotional intelligence is one of the most important things someone can have. Most don’t.

However, if you were to measure intelligence quotient in a traditional sense, I suspect his is rather high.

Whether you respect him for that or his qualifications at all is another matter. As you say, you can definitely be a smart idiot, but in a traditional sense, most people coming out of Harvard law are pretty high on the spectrum I imagine. My sister graduated from Colombia Law, and I’ll never admit it to her but she’s much smarter than I am. Doesn’t mean she’s better at everything.

Anyway, hope your week gets better. Cheers.
 
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