Current Affairs General US politics (ie, not POTUS related)

[SteveSC]

I think he will honestly. Been saying it for awhile. 2 years in I think he's done and Kamala has a shot at 10 years. It's what annoys me a bt about Manchin and that ass from Arizona. They can get EVERYTHING done in 2 years and then go back and go back to not caring and nobody will remember those other 2 years at all.

You can be guaranteed he will stay the course unless he dies.

No chance they change hands to Harris in two.

The right as they stand are toxic and all about challenging convention and getting away with it.

Remember who holds the Supreme court. The left would need to maintain all branches before Biden would consider stepping down especially if the oldest member of the teenage mutant turtles is still alive.

Harris will have four years to try and convince the left and undecided she is worthy and well the rest of America, of many who don't see a woman as being appropriate.

Of course the right have already dismissed her, well, because she is female and most likely because she is a woman of color.

They will use her history in politics against her like that has mattered for any other candidate in the last four to eight years. Given who we have seen get elected in various positions including the presidency.

Not the best candidate but given the left are not ready for socialism and the rights disdain for well normal level headed folk we are in for a hell of a show again.

 

[BlueTX]

 

[tsubaki]

at least we know now what Hitler would have looked like if Eva had run off with a handsome SS-mann and stopped returning his calls

 

[BlueTX]

at least we know now what Hitler would have looked like if Eva had run off with a handsome SS-mann and stopped returning his calls

Cartel heckle: "Hey, pendejo. We don't want no Canadians crossing our river, eh!!"

 

[verreauxi]

Manchin is no "independent thinker".

He is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

He virtually votes for the right side of the isle on nearly all issues.

He has never come out with any view independent of either side.

He plays identity politics better than most. Making sure to speak up and be heard on the ideals that seemingly make him progressive but in reality he isn't.

The only time he votes "along party lines" is when it won't wobble his right leaning base. He never has a real opponent because the right know he had their back and anyone running against him has a slim chance of beating him.

Sinema on the other hand could be considered once independent. Given her stint as a green party member. The problem with her is she went on to join groups who say otherwise.

She is rightly fecked the next time her seat is up. The left now hate her and she has not played her cards right. Given her history and how she started, she doesn't have the same draw to conservatives as Manchin.

She will be beat easily by a conservative actually representing the right on the next round. All the while being stupid enough to vote their way on key issues.

America doesn't have independent thinkers in politics. That is largely the problem here. Sanders could have been one. But he knew he had to bed in with one of the sides that matched his views closer to get a real run.

Speaking of Sinema she worked for Nadar another sort of independent who if I recall ran that way with some success.

Which is hard to do. That is the issue. If you attempt to be free thinking or different no one cares. Especially the networks. Least of all forgetting those who pass brown envelopes across tables.

What America needs is for these "independent thinkers" to hold firm as independents or third parties and strive for change.

One party definitely doesn't have independent thinkers and never will and that's the right. Hence why the majority of independent who rise to popularity fall in line on the left to be then drowned out.

It's like the world's longest running chess game where the viewer can see the eventual solution but the players are too stubborn to take a risky move.

Yeah, I agree, there are no independents anymore, and a whole book has been written on the fact that many moderate Republicans (more so than Dems) have opted to not seek seats in Congress.

But more generally, (getting to @carolinablue232's comment) when one sees the new voting bill passed in Georgia by Republicans, how could you not fault people for voting along party lines if you're a (soon to be more) disenfranchised Democrat? Republicans have revealed their true colors in these past few years (or longer) across local, state, and congressional levels--I can't fault people for voting for a realistic and potentially electable alternative (i.e., a Democrat) across all levels as well. I don't always vote Democrat, but I always vote against Republicans (so that's a bit "party-line" in a two party system).

 

[Sassy Colombian]

Manchin is no "independent thinker".

He is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

He virtually votes for the right side of the isle on nearly all issues.

He has never come out with any view independent of either side.

He plays identity politics better than most. Making sure to speak up and be heard on the ideals that seemingly make him progressive but in reality he isn't.

The only time he votes "along party lines" is when it won't wobble his right leaning base. He never has a real opponent because the right know he had their back and anyone running against him has a slim chance of beating him.

Sinema on the other hand could be considered once independent. Given her stint as a green party member. The problem with her is she went on to join groups who say otherwise.

She is rightly fecked the next time her seat is up. The left now hate her and she has not played her cards right. Given her history and how she started, she doesn't have the same draw to conservatives as Manchin.

She will be beat easily by a conservative actually representing the right on the next round. All the while being stupid enough to vote their way on key issues.

America doesn't have independent thinkers in politics. That is largely the problem here. Sanders could have been one. But he knew he had to bed in with one of the sides that matched his views closer to get a real run.

Speaking of Sinema she worked for Nadar another sort of independent who if I recall ran that way with some success.

Which is hard to do. That is the issue. If you attempt to be free thinking or different no one cares. Especially the networks. Least of all forgetting those who pass brown envelopes across tables.

What America needs is for these "independent thinkers" to hold firm as independents or third parties and strive for change.

One party definitely doesn't have independent thinkers and never will and that's the right. Hence why the majority of independent who rise to popularity fall in line on the left to be then drowned out.

It's like the world's longest running chess game where the viewer can see the eventual solution but the players are too stubborn to take a risky move.

All your points on Manchin and Sinema are right on the spot, Steve!

America does need a third party in politics of independent thinkers. The two party system is broken and we need a total transformation of our partisanship political system. George Washington’s farewell address is often remembered for its warning against hyper-partisanship: “The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism.”

 

[grandjoeblue]

I do think there potentially will be major riots after the George Floyd trial. A lot of the defense will be based on the police department recommending the knee technique as a suitable hold.

I think he'll get convicted of some charges but if the charges are light I can imagine there will be a lot of anger. Unless he goes down for life surely people won't be happy?

 

[Sassy Colombian]

I do think there potentially will be major riots after the George Floyd trial. A lot of the defense will be based on the police department recommending the knee technique as a suitable hold.

I think he'll get convicted of some charges but if the charges are light I can imagine there will be a lot of anger. Unless he goes down for life surely people won't be happy?

The defense has already began their cover-up and if Chauvin gets away with Floyd's murder then I can understand people going out to protest.

 

[RAFUH]

Wow. This is ridiculous and also somewhat dangerous. Bars have to provide free water but people waiting to vote can’t get some? How on earth did someone justify this? What was the argument?

The "justification" is that there is already a Georgia law that you can't give voters "gifts"
This is including food and water as "gifts"

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I do think there potentially will be major riots after the George Floyd trial. A lot of the defense will be based on the police department recommending the knee technique as a suitable hold.

I think he'll get convicted of some charges but if the charges are light I can imagine there will be a lot of anger. Unless he goes down for life surely people won't be happy?

Recent events suggest that major riots would be likely followed by people blaming rioters for causing unrest.

 

[grandjoeblue]

The defense has already began their cover-up and if Chauvin gets away with Floyd's murder then I can understand people going out to protest.

What are the chances of him getting sent down for murder? Is it very likely or could he somehow get away with manslaughter? I think even with a 15 year sentence and manslaughter charge there would be riots.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Why is Biden trying to stop the UK from taxing big tech?

They should pay their fair share of tax.

 

[Sassy Colombian]

What are the chances of him getting sent down for murder? Is it very likely or could he somehow get away with manslaughter? I think even with a 15 year sentence and manslaughter charge there would be riots.

I guess we will have to wait and see, so far in the US cops committing these murders on black men have rarely been convicted of murder. A manslaughter charge will not be enough and I agree that will create a lot of commotion.

 

[Huyton Layne]

Why is Biden trying to stop the UK from taxing big tech?

They should pay their fair share of tax.

Because he's not British and couldn't give a flying one how the UK does tbf so doesn't want money leaving the US to UK coffers

 

[Sassy Colombian]

It is time for Democrats to win this battle for the sake of the US democracy.

'An inflection point': Congress prepares for battle over massive voting rights bill — NBC News

Progressives say the survival of the republic depends on this legislation. Republicans call it a partisan power grab.

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