Current Affairs General US politics (ie, not POTUS related)

[Grinch]

Lol

maybe the difference is that Left Wing Antifa haven’t murdered cops yet?

LOL

OK

 

[Ruairi77]

Get started please

well, it's pretty scummy to want to deport someone who was brought here illegally as a child.

Here's a scenario.
A 3 year old was brought to the states illegally 20 years ago from Iran. They have never been back and dont speak Farsi.
They have no convictions.
They have a drivers license and have never been delinquent on bills.
They have a college education and now have a job and pay tax.
Both their parents are dead.
They are married to a US citizen and have a US born child.

DACA saves them from being taken from their family and being deported back to Iran, a country they don't know with a language they don't speak.
Removing that with out any system to replace it and offer amnesty to these people is inhumane.

 

[Grinch]

well, it's pretty scummy to want to deport someone who was brought here illegally as a child.

Here's a scenario.
A 3 year old was brought to the states illegally 20 years ago from Iran. They have never been back and dont speak Farsi.
They have no convictions.
They have a drivers license and have never been delinquent on bills.
They have a college education and now have a job and pay tax.
Both their parents are dead.
They are married to a US citizen and have a US born child.

DACA saves them from being taken from their family and being deported back to Iran, a country they don't know with a language they don't speak.
Removing that with out any system to replace it and offer amnesty to these people is inhumane.

I wont get worked up about it by any means but the parents shouldn't have been here in the first place if they were here ILLEGALLY. So crack down on that issue and boom no more worries. An illegal is an illegal in my mind and it will never be changed.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Prosecutors are quick to throw out the Right Wing Group but not he Left Wing Antifa group eh? Seems fair and unbiased

Yes prosecutors in fact will throw out the group which they are actually a part of faster than the one that they aren't

 

[Ruairi77]

I wont get worked up about it by any means but the parents shouldn't have been here in the first place if they were here ILLEGALLY. So crack down on that issue and boom no more worries. An illegal is an illegal in my mind and it will never be changed.

So you think the 3 year old should be found guilty for their parents indiscretions and have their lives ruined?

 

[Grinch]

So you think the 3 year old should be found guilty for their parents indiscretions and have their lives ruined?

If they are old enough, simply become a citizen. And if the kid and parents get caught here illegally, get sent back until you come through the various paths to citizenship. Easy.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

An illegal is an illegal

Where's that vomiting emoji?

 

[Ruairi77]

If they are old enough, simply become a citizen. And if the kid and parents get caught here illegally, get sent back until you come through the various paths to citizenship. Easy.

What? the 3 year old cant become a citizen.
the kid is now an adult who's parent's are dead. You support deporting him, separating his family.

"an illegal is an illegal in my mind and it will never be changed"

All your 'I might vote Biden' crap is just that, crap.
You spout it from time to time to get an easier ride on here when you realize how dumb supporting Trump makes you look.
Every now and again you let the mask slip and the 'blame Antifa' 'blame illegals' comes creeping out.

 

[Grinch]

What? the 3 year old cant become a citizen.
the kid is now an adult who's parent's are dead. You support deporting him, separating his family.

"an illegal is an illegal in my mind and it will never be changed"

All your 'I might vote Biden' crap is just that, crap.
You spout it from time to time to get an easier ride on here when you realize how dumb supporting Trump makes you look.
Every now and again you let the mask slip and the 'blame Antifa' 'blame illegals' comes creeping out.

Told you. Im all over the place on the make believe political spectrum. Have viewpoints on both sides. I just believe you should come to the country legally through the 4 different paths. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

[Ruairi77]

Told you. Im all over the place on the make believe political spectrum. Have viewpoints on both sides. I just believe you should come to the country legally through the 4 different paths. Why is that so hard to understand?

So what's your opinion on someone who came here illegally and got legal status because they could afford it?

 

[Grinch]

So what's you're opinion on someone who came here illegally and got legal status because they could afford it?

Here are the routes:
Asylum
You can apply for asylum in the U.S. if you qualify, as long as you apply within a year of your entry or the expiration of your authorized stay. (If you entered the country on a valid visa that expired on March 15, for example, you must apply for asylum before the following March 15.)

In order to apply for asylum, you have to show that you’ve been persecuted – or that you fear future persecution in your home country – based on your religion, race, nationality, political opinion or membership in a certain social group.

Temporary Protected Status
You could be eligible for temporary protected status in the U.S. if you come from a country that’s recently had an environmental or natural disaster, a civil war, or any other issue that makes it unsafe for you to return. Temporary protected status, or TPS, doesn’t lead to a green card, and it’s only good for up to 18 months. However, you can receive a work permit and explore other options toward a more permanent status during the time you’re in the U.S.

Cancellation Of Removal
Some people who are arrested by immigration authorities can qualify for cancellation of removal – but it’s not an option available to everyone. You can only use this option if you’re already in removal proceedings, and you only qualify for cancellation of removal if you:
• Have been physically present in the U.S. for at least 10 years
• Are a person of good moral character, and have been for at least 10 years
• Aren’t disqualified due to the commission of a crime or immigration violation, or because you have persecuted others

You must also show that your removal from the U.S. would create an exceptional and “extremely unusual” hardship to your spouse, parent or child, provided that your spouse, parent or child is a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident.

Prior Service In The U.S. Military As A Path To Citizenship
Current or former U.S. military service members who are undocumented immigrants may qualify for relief in some cases. If you enlisted in the U.S. military while you were on U.S. territory or in the U.S. and you served in a certain conflict, you could be entitled to remain in the U.S. and gain immediate citizenship. You must have served in one of the following conflicts:
• The Korean War (June 25, 1950 to July 1, 1955)
• The Vietnam War (February 28, 1961 to October 15, 1978)
• The Persian Gulf War (August 2, 1990 to April 11, 1991)
• Operation Enduring Freedom (September 11, 2001 to present)

Why Can’t You Marry A U.S. Citizen?
In some cases, marrying a U.S. citizen can get you “immediate relative” status that makes you eligible for a green card. However, you can only take this route if you enter into a valid, bona fide marriage with a citizen – if you’re only marrying for the immigration benefit, U.S. Customs and Immigration Services will find out and you will be removed from the country.

Additionally, this option is only available to people who entered the United States legally on a valid visa. If you entered the U.S. illegally, your chance of being able to adjust your status is very slim.

 

[sdk]

An illegal is an illegal in my mind and it will never be changed.

Any belief clung to without reference to context is magical thinking. Magical thinking is self-delusion. History will pee on your grave.

 

[Ruairi77]

Here are the routes:
Asylum
You can apply for asylum in the U.S. if you qualify, as long as you apply within a year of your entry or the expiration of your authorized stay. (If you entered the country on a valid visa that expired on March 15, for example, you must apply for asylum before the following March 15.)

In order to apply for asylum, you have to show that you’ve been persecuted – or that you fear future persecution in your home country – based on your religion, race, nationality, political opinion or membership in a certain social group.

Temporary Protected Status
You could be eligible for temporary protected status in the U.S. if you come from a country that’s recently had an environmental or natural disaster, a civil war, or any other issue that makes it unsafe for you to return. Temporary protected status, or TPS, doesn’t lead to a green card, and it’s only good for up to 18 months. However, you can receive a work permit and explore other options toward a more permanent status during the time you’re in the U.S.

Cancellation Of Removal
Some people who are arrested by immigration authorities can qualify for cancellation of removal – but it’s not an option available to everyone. You can only use this option if you’re already in removal proceedings, and you only qualify for cancellation of removal if you:
• Have been physically present in the U.S. for at least 10 years
• Are a person of good moral character, and have been for at least 10 years
• Aren’t disqualified due to the commission of a crime or immigration violation, or because you have persecuted others

You must also show that your removal from the U.S. would create an exceptional and “extremely unusual” hardship to your spouse, parent or child, provided that your spouse, parent or child is a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident.

Prior Service In The U.S. Military As A Path To Citizenship
Current or former U.S. military service members who are undocumented immigrants may qualify for relief in some cases. If you enlisted in the U.S. military while you were on U.S. territory or in the U.S. and you served in a certain conflict, you could be entitled to remain in the U.S. and gain immediate citizenship. You must have served in one of the following conflicts:
• The Korean War (June 25, 1950 to July 1, 1955)
• The Vietnam War (February 28, 1961 to October 15, 1978)
• The Persian Gulf War (August 2, 1990 to April 11, 1991)
• Operation Enduring Freedom (September 11, 2001 to present)

Why Can’t You Marry A U.S. Citizen?
In some cases, marrying a U.S. citizen can get you “immediate relative” status that makes you eligible for a green card. However, you can only take this route if you enter into a valid, bona fide marriage with a citizen – if you’re only marrying for the immigration benefit, U.S. Customs and Immigration Services will find out and you will be removed from the country.

Additionally, this option is only available to people who entered the United States legally on a valid visa. If you entered the U.S. illegally, your chance of being able to adjust your status is very slim.

yea, I'm well aware, I came here legally and am now a citizen
What's your opinion on someone who came here illegally and paid a lawyer a lot of money to get their status changed to legal?

 

[Grinch]

yea, I'm well aware, I came here legally and am now a citizen
What's your opinion on someone who came here illegally and paid a lawyer a lot of money to get their status changed to legal?

To me as long as you are working towards citizenship cool.

 

[Ruairi77]

To me as long as you are working towards citizenship cool.

so you're alright with someone who entered the country illegally, got married legitimately and has the money needed to change his status?

So 'an illegal is an illegal' was just crap?