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Hinchcliffe's Corner
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Do you want to ban gay men from going in a males toilet because they might be attracted to someone in there?
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d34noj
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What a ridiculous take.
The point is that if Lynn Conway is correct and 90% of transwomen are straight men publically displaying a fetish, aroused at the thought of themselves affirmed as 'female' - should they be in a place where women are already compromised?
Men are men. Gay men are men. Transwomen, regardless of what anyone's feeling are - are men. Women are women.
Don't pretend you don't know the difference.
And if she is wrong...?
I mean I have never seen any of the trans people I have come across appear 'aroused' to be dressed as man or woman. It seems like drivel to me
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And uncles are uncles, black men are black men, spiders are spiders. Prejudice is prejudice. But yeah, I'll leave it there because it's an emotive topic that neither of us will budge on.
Spadge Vernacular
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I often find the discussion of trans issues quite a waste of time, people like to be dismissive of anything negative to the point but also always seems to be quite ignorant of the full facts to anything. Just to name a few points that are most likely even in this thread.
If gender and sex are different , the act of transitioning is changing your sex , not gender. Therefore someone identifying as a different gender is by no means a trans issue, but effectively role playing. This is quite evident these days especially with children. This I believe is where the biggest problem is, confusing the two when defending the issue. Think about whether it is based on sex , or how someone says they feel. Most of the talking points confuse the two.
It is quite frightening that adults are so dismissive of female opinions on the matter, going as far to label them. Their viewpoint is far more valid than any male opinion, but the term TERF is thrown out against any female who voices a concern. If a woman says she is not comfortable with it, that should be taken with the same , if not more consideration in my own opinion. Much like anything , pointing to one female opinions supporting it can be counter balanced with hundreds who don't but their voice aren't heard.
The impact of social media and internet is largely ignored by people who voice the trans conversation as a umbrella term. Again relating to children, it is a known factor that social media alone has a detrimental effect on children mentally but to what extent does it impact a child to then identify as something else? A talking point but a very valid one. Case and point, tik tok being the most popular social media app for children that is based solely on algorithms and trends. What impact does seeing that content over and over have on a young mind?
The impact that suppressed media on the subject is largely ignored (or simply ignorant to). There have been plenty of examples of negative coverage buried in the past so to a lot of people, it doesn't exist. For example the world transgender healthcare organisation leaked communications where they admit they know they are doing damage to children and do not know the long term effects. That was buried with a jk Rowling story at the time. Quite often media deflect away from stories , like when the mermaid charity hired a nonce to the board. Completely true story, simply Google it if you have doubts.
The impact of supporting a child to start a path of transitioning and the long term effects that can have. Any one of us, at 13-15 are not the same person we are now. Making a decision , or supporting a decision at such a young age, or younger can have a potentially catastrophic effect to their lives, whereas that decision taken as an adult is much less impactful. The argument of regretting decisions can be brought up but if you revisit anyone 5/10 years from now, that is when you will get the real truth. How can you be so sure that making decisions that change how a child will look, their ability to have / father kids in the future is the right decision?
The reality of public opinion on this. In reality the real reason many of the points are not challenged more is simply because the people who hold the opposite viewpoint are not posting about it online. This is solely my opinion but I believe the overall trans conversation was and continues to be an internet thing, and those who have personal interest on the subject are most likely living their life online.
If gender and sex are different , the act of transitioning is changing your sex , not gender. Therefore someone identifying as a different gender is by no means a trans issue, but effectively role playing. This is quite evident these days especially with children. This I believe is where the biggest problem is, confusing the two when defending the issue. Think about whether it is based on sex , or how someone says they feel. Most of the talking points confuse the two.
It is quite frightening that adults are so dismissive of female opinions on the matter, going as far to label them. Their viewpoint is far more valid than any male opinion, but the term TERF is thrown out against any female who voices a concern. If a woman says she is not comfortable with it, that should be taken with the same , if not more consideration in my own opinion. Much like anything , pointing to one female opinions supporting it can be counter balanced with hundreds who don't but their voice aren't heard.
The impact of social media and internet is largely ignored by people who voice the trans conversation as a umbrella term. Again relating to children, it is a known factor that social media alone has a detrimental effect on children mentally but to what extent does it impact a child to then identify as something else? A talking point but a very valid one. Case and point, tik tok being the most popular social media app for children that is based solely on algorithms and trends. What impact does seeing that content over and over have on a young mind?
The impact that suppressed media on the subject is largely ignored (or simply ignorant to). There have been plenty of examples of negative coverage buried in the past so to a lot of people, it doesn't exist. For example the world transgender healthcare organisation leaked communications where they admit they know they are doing damage to children and do not know the long term effects. That was buried with a jk Rowling story at the time. Quite often media deflect away from stories , like when the mermaid charity hired a nonce to the board. Completely true story, simply Google it if you have doubts.
The impact of supporting a child to start a path of transitioning and the long term effects that can have. Any one of us, at 13-15 are not the same person we are now. Making a decision , or supporting a decision at such a young age, or younger can have a potentially catastrophic effect to their lives, whereas that decision taken as an adult is much less impactful. The argument of regretting decisions can be brought up but if you revisit anyone 5/10 years from now, that is when you will get the real truth. How can you be so sure that making decisions that change how a child will look, their ability to have / father kids in the future is the right decision?
The reality of public opinion on this. In reality the real reason many of the points are not challenged more is simply because the people who hold the opposite viewpoint are not posting about it online. This is solely my opinion but I believe the overall trans conversation was and continues to be an internet thing, and those who have personal interest on the subject are most likely living their life online.
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Hinchcliffe's Corner
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I don't understand how unbothered people are by typing novels. Clearly, clearly not bothered.
Show me the impact ChatGPTAI thingy about x controversy woke topics - yawn
That's such a cop-out.
Shall we ban all Muslims from open public spaces in case one of them decides to go on a religion fueled suicidal rampage?
Should we send every immigrant back to their country of origin in case they are a criminal?
No?
"dO yOu nOt sEe tHe RiSk" ?
As I said, using the minority to condemn the majority is oppression 101.
So …. Are we all agreed Optimus prime was a decent sort ???
Anyone calling themself 'prime' is an obvious wrong un. It's equivalent to 'alpha'. the tate peterson generation looking to subjectify a part of society they consider themselves above.
There's a reason tate got into martial arts, 99% of people he meets want to kick him into the air.
You mean the former Orion Pax, who underwent leadership reassignment surgery and transitioned into Optimus Prime?
You know what? Even Megatron didn't go around deadnaming his nemesis.
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