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Tubey said:
Right, but they don't unless pressured. That's the key - the choice.


^ This shouldn't be a thing. It's playing the man, not the ball. It's authoritarian in that it's arbitrarily deciding what is hate, attempting to have no dissenting views. They straight up state the aim is to change the media in their own image.

You can disagree with these rags, but their right to exist shouldn't be in question. If you hate the message, argue back against it. Don't just cancel the message entirely if it's simply something you disagree with politically. That's what free speech is. If you want to "stop funding hate", don't buy it, but let everyone else have the choice.

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They're flat out just saying 'anti woke' is 'hate'. No grey areas, just flat out 'you agree with me or you're a monster' - surely everyone can agree that's bloody insane?
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er - they didn't have a choice, that was the point - their ads just appeared on GB News and they did not know until they were told.

As for SFH, that point of yours is very dubious - you cannot seriously be saying that them criticising an RT article means they are trying to define what "hate" means, and then go on to say that means because they are saying that anyone who doesn't agree with them is a monster. That was not what they were saying at all.

In terms of whether "woke" can be a hate term, it probably could be. There is already a lot of the structure in the media around the use of the word (belittling those deemed to be "woke", outright fabrication (of groups, motives and news) of what it represents, claiming "the woke" represent a threat, creating dividing lines between them and us, monetizing it, using it as a term of abuse etc) that parallels how other groups have been defined and attacked based on membership / perceived membership of that group. GB News certainly appear to have based their initial output on some form of campaign against "woke", which is a bit of a giveaway.

After all, the way in which the issue is treated by the media is not that dissimilar to the way the same media treats Muslims or asylum seekers, or in the past treated benefit claimants, ethnic minorities, the gay communities, the left, Jews and so on. Is it near that level yet? Probably not, but with a bit more definition (so that people are actually identifiable as individuals as being "woke") it will be.
 
peteblue said:
The left do not champion diversity. They do not champion diversity of thought nor opinion. They seek to close this down at every opportunity........
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No they don't, well some might. I don't know all liberals across the globe but when you get more extreme liberals then you are right. However, it is exactly the same for the right, not all of them want to close down arguments but there are a lot that do exactly that.

The important thing for me is discussion, the above comment I think is a go to anytime anybody wants to discuss a subject or challenge a thought process. It is a cop out and I find that it is generally used despite the quality of the argument coming from the left.

Right says something, left says 'wait there, are you sure about this, this is a survey saying the opposite', right says 'how dare you try to stop me from speaking, I am going onto all the news channels now to tell everybody that you are stopping me from talking'.

I will also add that the left are more likely to be pro choice, pro LGBTQ+, etc. If this is not championing diversity of thought and opinion I don't know what is.
 
Entirely predictable that the lefties are offended by the existence of GB news. At the same time; pretty amusing/telling that all the tickers, banners etc are in large print...
 
JimmyJeffers said:
Sounds like publicity stunts to me. IKEA for example want to look more ethical after the news from France. Also if GB news was pulling in millions of viewers I doubt they’d be pulling out so quick
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And entirely within their remit to allow there adverts to be shown at their discretion.. But what do the actions of private Corporate entities, in response to the actions of a private Media company, have to do with the British " free market" Governmnt, none should be the answer, this should not be even a discussion.

However, coupled with the fact Johnson went to the GBNews ‘reporter’ straight after two main broadcasters at the last Covid briefing, and the head/financier of GBNews having his own biography on the U.K. Government website, it’s hard not to see the unconventional ties between them.

Indeed looks like these privative corporate entities are head of the game with their consumer groups, taking in last nights by election result.
 
Tubey said:
Right, but they don't unless pressured. That's the key - the choice.


^ This shouldn't be a thing. It's playing the man, not the ball. It's authoritarian in that it's arbitrarily deciding what is hate, attempting to have no dissenting views. They straight up state the aim is to change the media in their own image.

You can disagree with these rags, but their right to exist shouldn't be in question. If you hate the message, argue back against it. Don't just cancel the message entirely if it's simply something you disagree with politically. That's what free speech is. If you want to "stop funding hate", don't buy it, but let everyone else have the choice.

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They're flat out just saying 'anti woke' is 'hate'. No grey areas, just flat out 'you agree with me or you're a monster' - surely everyone can agree that's bloody insane?
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I think you spend too long on the internet
 
Tubey said:
You do realise this is the exact same thing the 'cancel culture' was doing in reverse right?

So if you have a problem with this, you should objectively have a problem with the 'cancelling' in the first place.
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How is it remotely the same? Consumer activism is about people grouping together to turn a largely powerless position into something more powerful. A government doing something is always from a position of absolute power.
 
Charro said:
Anyone else just ignoring all of this?

People on the left need to stop giving it attention.
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TBF I try to, but then one goes into the restroom at work and find someone has put it on in there.

If we aren’t careful we’ll end up like the yanks, wondering why millions of people believe in some ludicrous conspiracy theory and vote for scam hard right candidates, as if that isn’t anything to do with the 24 hour media they consume.
 
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