Game Of Thrones Television series *may contain spoilers*

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Tree13 said:
And the quality would be better.

As far back as season two or three, they should have gone to either:

a) ten longer episodes per season; or
b) 14 or 15 episodes, each an hour(ish), per season.

They've produced an amazing show, no question. It is also beyond question that they could have done even better if they'd stuck to the source material.
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I agree about the episodes. The build-up to the present context has been huge and the outcome deserves at least as much time to be layed down and unfold, since it's basically what we've been waiting for all these years. Instead you get loads of wasted potential scenes, dialogues and encounters.

However, the idea of the show going into a different direction than the original narrative appeals to me in a certain way. I want to read the books after the show is done, and it will surely be a thrill to not only experience all the additional content, but also different outcomes.
 
I liked the parallel between Rickard and Brandon stark being burned by The Mad King and Dany burning Randyll and Dickon Tarly - will another Lannister stop a Targaryen from burning everyone? Also, quite liked Jon bonding with his long lost Dragon bro.

My excited prediction!

The Hound will die and come back as a wight, they'll take him to King's Landing where Cersei will be all "Yeah whatevs, I have one too. FIGHT!"

UNDEAD CLEGANEBOWL!
 
A minor irritation from last night's episode:

The demise of Lord Randyll Tarly made no sense.

I know that the show keeps re-writing characters, making their back stories different to those drafted by GRRM, but one thing the show maintained in line with the books was Randyll Tarly being a highly competent and very experienced battlefield commander. Other characters made mention of this several times, including Jamie Lannister earlier this season when he mentioned that Lord Tarly was the only commander who had successfully defeated Robert Baratheon in a large-scale battle. That's the former King, Robert Baratheon. And the battle Jamie refers to took place during "Robert's Rebellion"... when the Starks, Arryns, Tullys, Baratheons and their vassals rose up to overthrow the ruling Targaryens.

Lord Randyll Tarly was one of the leading generals in the army of the king against whom Robert rebelled.

That king was Aerys II Targaryen.

The "Mad King".

Daenerys' father.

So why would he refuse to serve Daenerys?

Sure, she had just massacred a force led by Jamie Lannister and Randyll Tarly.... but they weren't Tarly's own troops - they were Lannisters. And the Lannisters were complicit in the downfall of Aerys Targaryen whom, lest we forget, trusted Randyll Tarly as one of his finest generals.

It made absolutely no sense whatsoever for Randyll Tarly to have refused to bend the knee. It made no sense that Tyrion didn't raise Tarly's previous loyal service to Aerys as a reason for Daenaerys and Tarly to reach an agreement. Daenerys HATED Robert Baratheon, that has been made clear throughout the show - so why would she not do everything in her power to bring the only man who ever defeated Robert into her camp?

Rank bad writing.
 
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heatmeiser said:
I liked the parallel between Rickard and Brandon stark being burned by The Mad King and Dany burning Randyll and Dickon Tarly - will another Lannister stop a Targaryen from burning everyone? Also, quite liked Jon bonding with his long lost Dragon bro.

My excited prediction!

The Hound will die and come back as a wight, they'll take him to King's Landing where Cersei will be all "Yeah whatevs, I have one too. FIGHT!"

UNDEAD CLEGANEBOWL!
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Undead Cleganebowl would be amazing!

At least one of that lot heading off from the wall has gotta die.
 
andym78 said:
Undead Cleganebowl would be amazing!

At least one of that lot heading off from the wall has gotta die.
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Smart money has to be on Thoros and Berric not making it back.

Gendry's return is puzzling at this stage - presumably there is a big plot point for him coming up. Jorah and Jon have top-level plot armour, Tormund is comic relief and the whole world wants to see the Hound participate in Cleganebowl and reunite with Arya. Thoros and Berric are in deep doo-doo - they are the equivalent of the red-shirted security officers on the original series of Star trek.
 
I loved last nights episode. I have loved everyone actually as being a big fan of the fantasy genre, I have read MANY books, and watched MANY movies and TV shows of the same fair. About 90% of those books have been utter garbage, and apart from The Lord Of The Rings trilogy movies - ditto! The Hobbit movies were a letdown, they tried too much and took TOO MANY liberties.

So onto Game Of Thrones - for me it has everything a fantasy show should have. The books - 1-3 were fantastic, my three favorite reads ever (even better thank LOTR). The TV show could NOT follow the books exactly (name me one book to TV show/movie that has) for many reasons, and wait a minute, all those who complain about the show now - god knows when we will get the next book - maybe 2019, and as for the final book - at that pace 2025. So lets all just enjoy it.

Of course - everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But those were are my thoughts.

The season is moving fast yes - but it has to. At 10 million dollars per episode, and only 13 left available in the last two seasons to end the show - what does averyone expect? They do it well enough, and I seem to remember all those comments back in seasons 3-5 particularly that the show meanders, too slow, nothing happening! Lets take Tyrion's meeting with Jaimie last night. A few seasons ago, that scene would have taken up a WHOLE episode! Yes, a boatload of dialogue, lots of reminiscing - fascinating stuff, and that worked previously. But not any more. They gotta get to the end of the story, and fast!

Who is playing the Game Of Thrones. Not Jon, Not Cersei. And not Danny. The two masterminds and most evil, conniving scrotes Varys and worst of all Littlefinger. Cant wait to see who's left standing at the end of it all.
 
The whole Winterfell situation ATM is winding me up and just awful viewing ! Getting to the point were I hope Sansa gets pushed out of a window! Good episode though but could do without the fan pleasing nods !
 
I didn't mind the episode but the more I read this summary the more ridiculous the episode seems

So as it stands, the plan developed in the most recent episode is as follows: to smuggle Tyrion and Davos into KL - and by smuggle they mean just row onto the coast of a city on the edge of potential invasion, in a paddle boat in plainsight of anyone who so much as looks out to the sea - so that they can talk to Jaime (who inexplicably managed to escape the Dothraki army with Bronn, despite being at most a few hundred metres away from where they fell into the lake as evidenced by Jamie's reaction upon ascension to the top) so that Jaime will convince Cersei (a step in the plan that could have equally come to fruition had they just captured jaime and sent him to Cersei) that if they get Jon (the King of the North and the only leader in Westeros 100% committed against the army of the dead) to go beyond the wall, somehow approach the army of the dead (close enough to obtain a wight and (???) put it in chains (???), but far enough that their ranging troop of seven isn't overwhelmed by the tens of thousands of wights), bring that wight back to the 7 kingdoms, and transport it all the way to King's Landing. They hope that Cersei will be convinced of the reality of the situation upon seeing the wight (which is nothing more than evidence of the existence of necromancy, something she is already aware of because of her own undead bodyguard) and not just think that this is a singular undead conjured up by Danaerys to fool her into believing of a much greater great than exists, and upon convicning Cersei of all this, then will transport all the troops of Danaerys and Cersei (as well as somehow also convincing the Westerosi troops of the great existential threat beyond the wall, so that they are willing to fight alongside Dothraki savages) across westeros to fight the army of the dead.
And this all can happen in time before the white walkers reach Eastwatch.
 
Apart from very little happening yet again the one thing I can take from this week is that my bloody retinas are burnt out. So many extreme dark to light shots!
 
The show is fast becoming my all time favourite series.

It's so good that you'll get the minority watching/searching at little things to pull it apart and take a dump on it. As is wrong with the world today, you'll always get the knobheads waiting for the slightest hiccup or something they didn't agree with.
 
longers said:
I didn't mind the episode but the more I read this summary the more ridiculous the episode seems

So as it stands, the plan developed in the most recent episode is as follows: to smuggle Tyrion and Davos into KL - and by smuggle they mean just row onto the coast of a city on the edge of potential invasion, in a paddle boat in plainsight of anyone who so much as looks out to the sea - so that they can talk to Jaime (who inexplicably managed to escape the Dothraki army with Bronn, despite being at most a few hundred metres away from where they fell into the lake as evidenced by Jamie's reaction upon ascension to the top) so that Jaime will convince Cersei (a step in the plan that could have equally come to fruition had they just captured jaime and sent him to Cersei) that if they get Jon (the King of the North and the only leader in Westeros 100% committed against the army of the dead) to go beyond the wall, somehow approach the army of the dead (close enough to obtain a wight and (???) put it in chains (???), but far enough that their ranging troop of seven isn't overwhelmed by the tens of thousands of wights), bring that wight back to the 7 kingdoms, and transport it all the way to King's Landing. They hope that Cersei will be convinced of the reality of the situation upon seeing the wight (which is nothing more than evidence of the existence of necromancy, something she is already aware of because of her own undead bodyguard) and not just think that this is a singular undead conjured up by Danaerys to fool her into believing of a much greater great than exists, and upon convicning Cersei of all this, then will transport all the troops of Danaerys and Cersei (as well as somehow also convincing the Westerosi troops of the great existential threat beyond the wall, so that they are willing to fight alongside Dothraki savages) across westeros to fight the army of the dead.
And this all can happen in time before the white walkers reach Eastwatch.
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And yet people claim that Dave and Dan can write almost as well as GRRM.

They're pretty good at giving established characters amusing dialogue, and at putting together visually impressive fight scenes... but their ability to weave together sub-plots and maintain an overall storyline is woeful. They're great tv producers. They're not good storytellers.
 
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