Fourth Place?

[Summerskin]

QPR aside on opening day we scraped together a few decent results before Moyes' had us bend over for 2 months when the big boys came around.

 

[welshtoffee]

If anyone thinks we can get 4th place really needs to get some psychiatric help now, apart from a few games against the better teams (eg City, Chelsea) we have been absolutely dire. I think 8th or 9th is the best we can end up especially with Neville in midfield an option which gives you nothing whatsoever !!!

 

[davek]

Is 9th appalling davek??

Man city, man utd, spurs, arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool should all finish above us. That leaves us I'd say looking at 7th before loosing the players we have over the last 12 months.

Newcastle, Sunderland, Stoke and the likes all out spent us in the summer. Newcastle have done very well, having brought in some very good players and performing above themselves all season. That puts us to 8th.

With are level of investment and ageing players and lost players... Well u need to get realistic mate!

I dont care what the circumstances are, for Everton to finish mid-table is appalling to me. That's just not good enough, not by a long way.

 

[bluejock]

I dont care what the circumstances are, for Everton to finish mid-table is appalling to me. That's just not good enough, not by a long way.

In some ways mate, I fully agree. It flies in the face of Nil Satis.... but unfortunately, 7th-9th is realistically the best we can expect until there are some major changes at the club.

 

[Saliba]

If anyone thinks we can get 4th place really needs to get some psychiatric help now, apart from a few games against the better teams (eg City, Chelsea) we have been absolutely dire. I think 8th or 9th is the best we can end up especially with Neville in midfield an option which gives you nothing whatsoever !!!

Still can't believe Neville is starting in the midfield, it's making me sick. Although I still love you Nev, you're just ****e now.

 

[steken1]

Anywhere between 5th-15th means fcuk all these days anyway. While we're skint but have good players we should be putting all our energy into winning the cups. Finishing anywhere between those positions and a cup semi/final each year will do me until we get rid of the leeches in the boardroom.

 

[Summerskin]

I dont care what the circumstances are, for Everton to finish mid-table is appalling to me. That's just not good enough, not by a long way.

bUt m0YlEs aS nOt hAd tEh MoNeH!!

Agreed though, the fact it's taken us (again) 4-5 months to scrape a few home wins together is disgraceful; Davey is a very unique manager in the way that his repeated poor cup runs/starts/home form has never been questioned by those supposedly higher than him.

 

[zed]

If anyone thinks we can get 4th place really needs to get some psychiatric help now, apart from a few games against the better teams (eg City, Chelsea) we have been absolutely dire. I think 8th or 9th is the best we can end up especially with Neville in midfield an option which gives you nothing whatsoever !!!

problem solved, i heard some evertonians threw him out of a moving train yesterday................respect

 

[LTblue]

Top 7 and a European finish would be delightful thank-you. I think we're hitting the right kind of form to pull Stoke, Newcastle, Sunderland, Norwich and the like back, we have a better squad then all of them. Of course the most important now is attempting to win the FA cup and mark Moyes out as a trophy winning manager.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

Would love to win something, anything, lets just win something.

 

[davek]

In some ways mate, I fully agree. It flies in the face of Nil Satis.... but unfortunately, 7th-9th is realistically the best we can expect until there are some major changes at the club.

And that day will arrive later rather than sooner as long as everyone accepts the club's chronic lack of ambition and their propaganda that says that falling from a solid 5th to 11th/12th place in the table in the space of five seasons is ok. Those tvvats get away with murder.

bUt m0YlEs aS nOt hAd tEh MoNeH!!

Agreed though, the fact it's taken us (again) 4-5 months to scrape a few home wins together is disgraceful; Davey is a very unique manager in the way that his repeated poor cup runs/starts/home form has never been questioned by those supposedly higher than him.

When the manager joins in (or in fact leads the way) with the "we only really get going in the second half of the season" idiocy we'll always have this problem. Players will just knock off way too easily.

 

[RFUS]

Slipped to 13th place now, with Fulham 2-0 up.

And we'd have been 8th with a win.

A manager with balls would have gone for it, knowing these things.

Moyes plays it tight and sticks with the old reliables. Well I say old reliables, they're only really one of those things.

 

[steken1]

Slipped to 13th place now, with Fulham 2-0 up.

And we'd have been 8th with a win.

A manager with balls would have gone for it, knowing these things.

Moyes plays it tight and sticks with the old reliables. Well I say old reliables, they're only really one of those things.

The only thing we can rely on is they will be ****e.

Can't believe he took our most dangerous player off when we need to play for wins.

 

[bluejock]

I'm sorry but Moyes is really not doing it for me anymore.

Wins against Chelsea and City look good on the back pages for a day or two but if you're serious about challenging for Europe, you have to go places like the bottom 5 and muller them out of sight.

QPR were on a run of 5(?) straight defeats, totally devoid of confidence and Moyes trots out the usual defensive minded garbage. We should have battered them from the start, been 2 up by half time and gone on to close the game out comfortably.

Neville in midfield ahead of Barkley is criminal. Cahill offers zero, nothing, he's not even a menace to defenders anymore. Yes, they've been good servants to the club but that doesn't merit constant selection.

The substitutions were predictable yesterday. I know Drenthe was on a yellow but he was our only outlet that was offering even a glimmer of a goal threat. The forwards were starved by negative passing from midfiel to defense before the eventual long ball down the flanks that runs out for a goal kick again and again and again.

Anyway, rant over.

Get Jo on or something.

 

[Brennan]

Let me put it this way:

It's all well and good harping on about how we beat big teams and being thrilled when we do (just like i am), but there are far more 'small' teams than 'big' teams, and if we can't beat the 'smaller' teams regularly then it's just not good enough.

We could beat United every season but it wouldn't be acceptable when we're losing against teams like QPR at home. Not by a long way.