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Formations and Tactics under Martinez: The 3-5-2?

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Yep I would only want to go to a back 3 if we got someone who could easily step into the midfield and play passes. I think the old heitinga could have done it but now I think we would need someone new in if we want to go that way

That's where Jordi Gomez fits in.


*runs*
 
Mirallas on the left cutting inside.

This.

If we were to switch to 4-3-3 I see pienaar moving into the middle. Even if we stick 4-2-3-1 that's a possibility. Personally I I'd like to go 4-3-3. Sign a new CF and RMF, play mirallas from the left and you'd have Gibson, Osman, Pienaar, Barkley and Fellaini/Fer/new signing fighting it out for the center mid 3 posistions.
 
This.

If we were to switch to 4-3-3 I see pienaar moving into the middle. Even if we stick 4-2-3-1 that's a possibility. Personally I I'd like to go 4-3-3. Sign a new CF and RMF, play mirallas from the left and you'd have Gibson, Osman, Pienaar, Barkley and Fellaini/Fer/new signing fighting it out for the center mid 3 posistions.

4-3-3 sounds good to me. We'd definitely need a few more options up front though.
 
Nuuuuurp.

Right, someone had to start it, so let's start it. Who reckons this might work?

Jagielka - Heitinga - Distin

Coleman - Gibson - Fellaini - Baines

Osman

Jelavic - Anichebe


Thoughts?

(I know the title promised more but it's late, I'll let you lot fill in the tactical discussion if you are so willing. The Executioner's Blog is one of many useful sources for this kind of thing. I'll be back tomorrow with more!)

Beaut. Not the team or formation. You for suggesting it. Where in the-absolute-fook is Super Kev?!
 
...................Howard.......................
..Coleman...Jags......Distin....Baines..
...................Gibson.......................
...............Fellaini....Pienaar.............
..New sig...........................Mirallas..
...................New sig......................

Boom!!
 
Everyone plays 4231 now, it's the best formation at the moment so we may as well use it.
 
We should play a 10 formation.. 10 defenders, then when we get the ball, we all make a linked circle around the ball and walk up the pitch into the goal.. Any attempt to get it will result in a foul, every attack a goal and we've got 10 defenders..

20-0 every game.
 
Howard
Coleman Jagielka Lescott Baines
Gibson Fer
Mirallas De Bruyne Pienaar
Jelavic

The 3 new signings come from the sale of Fellaini
 
--------------------Howard---------------------------

----------Hibbert-----Jagielka (c)--------Distin--------

Coleman---------------------------------------Oviedo

-----------------Gibson-------Barkley----------------

----------------------Pienaar------------------------

---------------Anichebe--------Mirallas

Team not including Felliani/Baines/Heitinga or any speculative signings.
So thats what I think will be left to build on, and Roberto should have the Money from Felliani, Baines(if he goes not sure if he will) and Heitinga sales to invest in another wingback, centreback, centre mid and a forward.
I think 1 good signing in each positon

Lets say for example

Felliani is sold for £22 Million
Baines is sold for £10 Million
Heitinga is sold for £2 Million
(Under estimating the transfer fees a little on purpose)

Thats £34 Million to re-invest
 
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Would rather see Martinez play a XY3 formation, rather Bielsa-like, where X is 4 when there is an odd number up for the other side, and 3 when there is an even number up. We have the players for this kind of defensive setup change without making subtitutions: Backs who can play a wide midfield role, centre-backs who can play full back or step up to become defensive midfielder. Expect a lot of rotations at the back, and probably only one personnel change (another LB/CB, god forbid Lescott?) would suffice.

For the front three, It seems Martinez prefers a lone forward-stretcher-creator system. There will always be someone stretching play on the wings and provide runs in the back, someone to use the ball between the lines (often off-centre, but can be a central player or a false-ten which unfortunately we soon won't have), and a lone defensive forward whose main job is to hold the ball up, retain possession, and lead counterattacks if needed.

There will be two central midfielders left, and in general Martinez seemed to prefer industrious players rather than prima donnas. Osman and Gibson will do the job, but ideally we can use another box-to-box as this combination tends to be a bit lightweight.

Cracking post. It depressed me though to see this discussed properly with obvious research, then one of the next posts was:

"I hope we swerve this 3 at the back nonsense."
 
We have no problem getting width from our fullbacks in a 4 man defense. I'm not saying it will never be used, but it doesn't fit our personnel at the moment.

I think more of a true 4-3-3 would fit our forwards a bit more, though we need to get stronger in the midfield to run something like that (assuming Fellaini leaves).
 
Howard

Jagielka - Heitinga - Distin
Coleman - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Baines
Gibson

Pienaar - - - - Barkley - - - - Mirallas

Negredo

(Sell Fellaini, buy Negredo and a CM)

Best thing for our wingbacks, as it gives them more freedom to get forward, yet doesn't affect our attack in a negative way - if anything our defence and attack improves.
 
Cracking post. It depressed me though to see this discussed properly with obvious research, then one of the next posts was:

"I hope we swerve this 3 at the back nonsense."

Hey! If I was smart enough to post anything of substance, I would.
 
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