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FIFA banning poppies
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Out of interest, why do we need players to wear a poppy symbol on their kit? It seems a fairly recent thing, and I'm not sure how them doing so effects my ability, or indeed anyone elses, to remember those that passed in war.
The Cowboy
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I hate it, if I'm honest. It's just another example of virtue signalling, one-upmanship for the hand-wringing generation.
It's like folk falling over themselves to make it oh-so-clear how stupid, bigoted and hate-filled everyone is who voted Leave. Most of them don't even care, I'll bet many didn't even vote, but they need to be seen saying it so people don't think they're on the other side.
So the clubs put the Poppy in the shirt so no-one thinks ill of the club.
It may have started as a british thing but I view it as a symbol of remembrance for everyone , both military and civilian, involved in conflict since the first world war. Cherry picking who you feel it symbolises is disrespectful in my humble opinion
longers
Parcheggia l'autobus
The daily mail article on this is amazing, singling out an African woman for the ban. All the readers fumimg in the comments section, barely able to write a coherent sentence due to them seething so much.
Highlights include:
"Don't ask....just do it! Tell that fat faced hag what she can do with her petty diktats"
"Come on lads, just do it - Wear one, and be PROUD for ALL of us, and pay any fine imposed (someone set up a go fund me page - I will gladly contribute). This is NOT what my dad and granddad and millions more like them fought and died for. So that a PC pen pushing nonsense of a woman, can now dictate our policy over who we can or cannot honour. This is utterly SHAMEFUL behaviour on behalf of FIFA. This is part of OUR cultural heritage, we honour our fallen in two world wars (from ALL countries who fought to keep us FREE) those who do not like it, should LEAVE this country"
DM readers showing yet again they truly are the dregs of society
Highlights include:
"Don't ask....just do it! Tell that fat faced hag what she can do with her petty diktats"
"Come on lads, just do it - Wear one, and be PROUD for ALL of us, and pay any fine imposed (someone set up a go fund me page - I will gladly contribute). This is NOT what my dad and granddad and millions more like them fought and died for. So that a PC pen pushing nonsense of a woman, can now dictate our policy over who we can or cannot honour. This is utterly SHAMEFUL behaviour on behalf of FIFA. This is part of OUR cultural heritage, we honour our fallen in two world wars (from ALL countries who fought to keep us FREE) those who do not like it, should LEAVE this country"
DM readers showing yet again they truly are the dregs of society
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How ironic that something which symbolises - in many ways - the futility and abhorrence of war should be considered a "political" statement. The only statement the poppy makes these days is that we respect and remember those who sacrificed their lives. If it symbolises anything political it is the freedom those soldiers gave their lives for. That is something everyone the whole world over ought to celebrate - but I suppose it is asking too much for FIFA to endorse freedoms when every recent World Cup has been bought with corrupt payments and all of them from 2010 to 2022 has been, or will be, built with practically a slave labour force. It's FIFA that patently objects to "freedom" when the likes of Blatter, Warner and Platini have fed so well at the trough for decades.
Ballyfermot
Player Valuation: £750k
Mcclean must be rubbing his hands together and laughing maniacally.
In America it would be so they could sell the special edition kits for a markup or because a sponsor was giving them crazy money for it.
No idea how the hell it works on your side, but I tend to be opposed to organized political statements of this nature by any association or league. I'm not a 'stick to sports' guy - players should say whatever they believe and feel comfortable with that. And I have no problem with a league protesting a government action that impacts their employees (as any decent business would do). But I don't like the commercialized glitz that accompanies this sort of slacktivist campaigning by a league or association. It's the worst sort of profiteering and pageantry. It lowers the gravity of the situation.
'Oh some people died a long time ago, but we shame our footballers into wearing poppies now, so it's all good.'
If you want to remember war dead, learn from their sacrifice.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Er, thats the point mate. All money donated goes to the Royal British Legion, which exists to support members and their families of the armed forces. Past and present.
No profit. And the shirts or armbands with the poppy on it are usually auctioned for the RBL. Totally unpolitical, just a day we have had for decades that revolves around folk buying a paper poppy as their way of recognising the actions of others.
We also have a Remembrance Service every year at the Royal Albert Hall. A few weeks after 9/11, members of the NYFB were invited, again, to recognise their loss.
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