Fernando Torres vs Everton Away

[Eggs]

...understand Benitez insisted in getting him on the pitch when he was unfit and wonder if this has taken its toll. He was a majestic striker, no doubt in my mind about that and his fall from grace is staggering.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

Maybe, he just never was that good after all? Plenty of strikers have had wonderful starts to their careers and you cant deny he was superb in his first season at Liverpool. But you could argue that he has NEVER done it at the top level in league football.

Not having a dig at the kopites ( well I am) but Chelsea are the only title contenders he has ever played for.

at Athletico Madrid 21 goals in 40 appearances was his best ever season. Not bad, but compare it to the top strikers in that league ( messi & ronaldo) who most season have a goal a game ratio he is way off their level.

Kopites love to forget he was gash in his last season for them scoring 9 goals in 26 starts in his last season.

Even his Spanish career has been littered with great spells and then baron spells and sulks.

To be honest I think it's grossly unfair to compare anyone to these two. They're breaking all kinds of historical records and virtually everyone is way off their level.

I do agree with your overall point though

 

[tim cahill]

3 Years ago was without doubt the best Striker in World Football, now, I think Naismith offers more.

He was good but he was never the best striker in world football. He has never even been the best striker in the premiership.

 

[jtl60]

shut up lad, no wonder they call us bitter blues if you think torres wern't good.

errr hello, I said he was superb in his first season for them.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

So judging by some of the posts about his career on the darkside, we're taking the Kopites word as gospel these days are we.
He was fast & could finish.

Defences were on to him then he got injured, Rafael brought him back about a month too soon and ruined him cos he wasn't ready and now his pace had gone.

Struggles to finish his tea these days.

 

[petebeard]

for about 5 minutes on Saturday he never touched the ball and I actually forgot he was on the pitch.

 

[Fensta]

If the game on saturday was a few years ago he woulda tore us a new arse. Dunno what Chelsea are thinking letting go of Lukaku, he has to be better than Torres these days.

 

[Allezfan]

Torres (and jelavic) are proof that that whole 'class is permanent' thing is a load of rubbish.

 

[Tubey]

Torres (and jelavic) are proof that that whole 'class is permanent' thing is a load of rubbish.

Not at all. Either player could go berserk and score 30 this season, you just don't know.

 

[steken1]

Torres (and jelavic) are proof that that whole 'class is permanent' thing is a load of rubbish.

Sadly.

 

[steken1]

Not at all. Either player could go berserk and score 30 this season, you just don't know.

Haha. Behave.

 

[Tubey]

Haha. Behave.

Ah. So you know that Jelavic and Torres are finished then?

 

[tim cahill]

Ah. So you know that Jelavic and Torres are finished then?

What odds are you offering on neither of them getting 30 goals this season?

 

[steken1]

Ah. So you know that Jelavic and Torres are finished then?

I never said they where finished Tubes. I'm happy to say neither will score 30. 10 is closer to what they'll get IMO.

Neither has looked like finishing a dinner in well over 12 months

 

[Tubey]

What odds are you offering on neither of them getting 30 goals this season?

I'm not that stupid

All I'm saying is that both players have scored goals at a good rate at this level of the game and both are under 30 - and one of them has over 100 caps for Spain and scored 22 goals in all competitions last year.

It's not exactly completely impossible to imagine one or both of them catching fire. We're not talking about Lee Trundle or Dave Nugent after all.