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The boy spends 90s whining and swearing following the team's slow pit stop. He then lunges at the end of the straight, only passing Hamilton's rear wheel under the braking zone, commits to an obvious no-space move, flies over a kerb and immediately says 'that's what you get when you don't leave space'. He is a dangerous driver, far too prone to the red mist descending, refuses to pull out of anything and will one day cause serious injury...

This is why they need to do something about it - why he did what he did is much more important than what he did. Him losing his rag at something else almost killed someone today.
 
It should be at least a one race suspension.

That's not a 'Lewis fanboy' reaction either, wouldn't matter who it is, he's just nearly killed someone by being a baby.
There’s racing and being committed and there’s being damn right dangerous with such a single mindedness that he has an inability to concede.

If I Lewis, I’d be having to restrain myself from punching him because that was downright reckless.
 
... he wasn't. At the point above, Verstappen should abandon the attempt and pull back. Instead, because of the red mist that has plagued his career, he decides to persist, despite knowing he had no place to go.

He could have probably got the place had he took the corner aiming to get best traction and speed out of the chicane seeing Lewis was on the compromised slower line.

Just like he could have at Copse also.

It should be at least a one race suspension.

That's not a 'Lewis fanboy' reaction either, wouldn't matter who it is, he's just nearly killed someone by being a baby.

He needs something but that's a bit harsh methinks.
 
The crash was 60% Max 40% Lewis. They could have both avoided it but ultimately its a racing incident. I don't think either driver should be punished for it. I do think it's ultimately a result that suits Red Bull as Mercedes had the slight edge. Good to see the McLaren boys complete a 1-2. They both drove well and had done good jobs earlier in the race. I can see there being a few more coming togethers before the season ends. Its up to McLaren and Ferrari to take advantage of these slips in their pursuit of 3rd in the Constructors.
The problem is had Hamilton given a little more space (he wasn't obliged to at all, he has ahead at T1 and was on his line to hit T2) Verstappen would have been on the inside of T2, probably going a little faster than he should have been and on a less than ideal line.

I'd offer VERY short odds he'd have pushed Hamilton off into the gravel a little further down after the exit.

He has shown some signs of maturity over the past season, but today was right back to 2018 Verstappen.

A monumental bellend. Throw the book at him.
 
BBC is having a laugh with their inaccurate article but interesting what Max had to say on the matter:

but I didn't expect him to keep on squeezing and squeezing because we still would've had a car's width out of turn two.

"I don't know why he kept pushing wider and wider.

"You need two people to work together to make the corner work but unfortunately, we touched. If one guy is not willing to work, it is not going to happen.


Turn 4 incident (the one they say Hamilton was talking about imola in the article??) on the first lap:

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Hmmmm you can see evidence of Verstappen working together there to avoid contact...

Like I say Hamilton was stupid there just like Max was later, the only difference is Hamilton backed out of his silly move to prevent the crash.
 
Hamilton fan boys crying because an opponent does what Hamilton does all the time. No hypocrisy here.....

If Hamilton does that all the time then he would have tons of DNFs and contacts, which he doesn't. He is aggressive no doubt but Verstappen is in a league of 1 when it comes to aggression... i think every driver on the grid would agree with that.

Also the argument doesn't work so well when earlier in the race the same situation unfolded at turn 4 and Hamilton conceded.
 
If Hamilton does that all the time then he would have tons of DNFs and contacts, which he doesn't. He is aggressive no doubt but Verstappen is in a league of 1 when it comes to aggression... i think every driver on the grid would agree with that.

Also the argument doesn't work so well when earlier in the race the same situation unfolded at turn 4 and Hamilton conceded.
Nah Hamilton is a cry baby.
 
Hamilton fan boys crying because an opponent does what Hamilton does all the time. No hypocrisy here.....

I think the regular posters on here are the first to say when Max does something good and will equally call out Hamilton for doing silly stuff. However there are a few posters on here that will bash Hamilton all day long and support Max regardless. Yet we are the fan boys.

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If Hamilton does that all the time then he would have tons of DNFs and contacts, which he doesn't. He is aggressive no doubt but Verstappen is in a league of 1 when it comes to aggression... i think every driver on the grid would agree with that.

Also the argument doesn't work so well when earlier in the race the same situation unfolded at turn 4 and Hamilton conceded.
We all want drivers to be show passion and be committed and often the best drivers have this level of ruthlessness that pushes them above the rest.

However, and it's a big however, there's a line between having this level of drive and becoming reckless and dangerous to others - I can't condone that.

When the drive to win appears to override everything else, it's gone to far. Schumacher and Senna were both great drivers, but people still note their flaws.*

*Suzuka '90 (payback for '89?) and Adelaide '94 spring to mind.
 
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