Everton Youth Teams Thread

[Raino85]

For whatever reason , Ledson appears to have been held back by us early season, e.g. few early appearances for U21, bench for derby match. This also appears to have been translated into non appearance for England 19s. It would seem a bizarre decision for England to suddenly drop the successful captain of the past 2 years without significant input from the club. It looks like he is back and firing on all cylinders again. Like everybody else I haven't got a clue if or why his appearances have been carefully managed this season, and given his age probably best kept within the club if there was any reason . I think we have all been impressed with the way Unsworth and Co look after our young players, I trust them to be doing whatever is right for Ledson.

Yeah, I would like to think they are trying to stagger his appearances and avoid any risk of burnout.
This summer was probably his first summer off for a while so they don't want him to do it. Plus give the likes of Walsh a more prominent role in the side.
I seem to remember Rossiter being left out of an England squad by request from Liverpool for this reason ( I think it could of even been the u17 championships) correct me if im wrong

 

[Saint Domingo]

Sickens me that Moyes gets credit for Barkley. The kid made one mistake and was never to be seen again.

Apart from in games later that season, and the season after when he was getting starts in his favourite position away at Arsenal and Spurs. Barkley was a kid under Moyes and Moyes put him in at 17 into the first team just having come out from a triple leg break. Last season at the age of 21 showed that Barkley still was adjusting, it is only now he is starting to look consistent yet people want to knock Moyes for not playing an 18 year old every game.

 

[sportbillyblue]

Some observations from last night.

Lovely evening for a game of footie. Full compliment of coaching staff & management present (inc. Martinez).

3-0 flattered slightly though we were defo good for the win. We played a 4-4-2 formation. Not sure what formation Preston played, possibly 4-3-3.

Team:

Hewelt - GK - efficient, did what he needed to do, think his distribution could be better / quicker.
Lees - RB - coped well under 1st. half pressure, not much got passed him, got forward to good effect.
Mellon - LB - not sure about him, struck me as being mouthy and not a lot else.
Ledson - CM - first time I've seen him. Cracking player, great box-to-box energy with an eye for a probing pass. I'd give him a run in the cups and unless McCarthy picks up his game, think about introducing him (possibly as sub) in the PL. He has the torso of a man but the inside leg measurement of a 10 y/o.
Pennington - CB - good, solid game. Big lad who gets stuck in, good energy and pace, vocal. Good CB.
Browning - CB - liked him since I first saw him against Utd. Showed great distribution last night, could be a monster if he could apply it for 90 mins. Put in 1 cracking, crunching tackle midway through the 2nd. half.
Grant - RM - played better than the mini derby. He had a decent game, took his goal well.
Walsh - CM - 2nd. time I've seen him and me likey. Regardless of his diminutive size, gets stuck in, distributed the ball well, not afraid to shoot, good corners, free kicks etc .. future No. 10 ? based on what I've seen so far= yes.
McAleney - F - 3rd. time I've seen him and IMO does not meet some of the hype. Decent enough but not ready for the 1st team. Lost everything in the air (granted against a significantly taller defender), trots around like Pepe le Pew and left the pitch wih barely a hair out of place.
Rodriguez - F - given time I think he'll do okay. Slight build so not sure if he'll stand up to roughhouse defending. Few good runs, few mistakes.
Henin - LM = 1st time I've seen him and was impressed. Showed good, close skills, not afraid to take a man on, made a few mistakes / lost possession etc but for me the pluses far outweighed the minuses.

Couple of Preston lads shone for me - Heaton @ CB and James-Robinson in the midfield.

 

[Stephenlloyd]

Apart from in games later that season, and the season after when he was getting starts in his favourite position away at Arsenal and Spurs. Barkley was a kid under Moyes and Moyes put him in at 17 into the first team just having come out from a triple leg break. Last season at the age of 21 showed that Barkley still was adjusting, it is only now he is starting to look consistent yet people want to knock Moyes for not playing an 18 year old every game.

He was played on the left wing in the Spurs game
And was substituted around the 55 minute mark I think?

 

[Yankfootball1]

Garbutt was bought from Leeds so he might not count either.

Forgot that but you're right. as I said I wonder "what counts" as an academy player

 

[blueloon]

Some observations from last night.

Lees - RB - coped well under 1st. half pressure, not much got passed him, got forward to good effect.
Mellon - LB - not sure about him, struck me as being mouthy and not a lot else.ld.

Great report , thanks. These were the two who intrigued me( apart of course from Rodriguez) , as being new at this level, particularly Lees who seems to have come out of nowhere. With Yates, Jones and others on international duty they obviously moved him up the order a bit for this match. While I'm not sure what other options they had it does suggest that Lees has shown something in training to be pitched in at 16, albeit it was a low key u21 match. Nothing to get too excited about yet, I just love it when an unknown (to me) appears on the scene. Now anybody any info on Gray who was on the bench?

 

[mightymoyes]

Great report , thanks. These were the two who intrigued me( apart of course from Rodriguez) , as being new at this level, particularly Lees who seems to have come out of nowhere. With Yates, Jones and others on international duty they obviously moved him up the order a bit for this match. While I'm not sure what other options they had it does suggest that Lees has shown something in training to be pitched in at 16, albeit it was a low key u21 match. Nothing to get too excited about yet, I just love it when an unknown (to me) appears on the scene. Now anybody any info on Gray who was on the bench?

i dont recognise the name from even the u18 matches so possibly a trialist as you suggested last night.

 

[Matty_j1878]

we really should start streaming some of our under 21 games, theres really not much of an excuse

Hope that helps aaron.

 

[sportbillyblue]

we really should start streaming some of our under 21 games, theres really not much of an excuse

there were 2 cameras there last night, 1 in the main stand and 1 in the opposite stand. Noted comment on the wi-fi though.

I'll be back there next Monday so will pay attention (and ask around a bit) re: issues televising the match.

Just read back through this thread and given what I've read about Lees, very impressive. Jones looked impressive when he came on .. didn't see who went to LB after Mellon was subbed.

Strange tactic on our goal kicks too ... absolutely everyone drifted over to the right hand side of the pitch, meaning our LB, LM and their RB RM etc were on the opposite side of the centre spot. I didn't seem to work as they beat us to > 75% of anything that was in the air (offensively).

 

[LinekersLegs]

Some observations from last night.

Lovely evening for a game of footie. Full compliment of coaching staff & management present (inc. Martinez).

3-0 flattered slightly though we were defo good for the win. We played a 4-4-2 formation. Not sure what formation Preston played, possibly 4-3-3.

Team:

Hewelt - GK - efficient, did what he needed to do, think his distribution could be better / quicker.
Lees - RB - coped well under 1st. half pressure, not much got passed him, got forward to good effect.
Mellon - LB - not sure about him, struck me as being mouthy and not a lot else.
Ledson - CM - first time I've seen him. Cracking player, great box-to-box energy with an eye for a probing pass. I'd give him a run in the cups and unless McCarthy picks up his game, think about introducing him (possibly as sub) in the PL. He has the torso of a man but the inside leg measurement of a 10 y/o.
Pennington - CB - good, solid game. Big lad who gets stuck in, good energy and pace, vocal. Good CB.
Browning - CB - liked him since I first saw him against Utd. Showed great distribution last night, could be a monster if he could apply it for 90 mins. Put in 1 cracking, crunching tackle midway through the 2nd. half.
Grant - RM - played better than the mini derby. He had a decent game, took his goal well.
Walsh - CM - 2nd. time I've seen him and me likey. Regardless of his diminutive size, gets stuck in, distributed the ball well, not afraid to shoot, good corners, free kicks etc .. future No. 10 ? based on what I've seen so far= yes.
McAleney - F - 3rd. time I've seen him and IMO does not meet some of the hype. Decent enough but not ready for the 1st team. Lost everything in the air (granted against a significantly taller defender), trots around like Pepe le Pew and left the pitch wih barely a hair out of place.
Rodriguez - F - given time I think he'll do okay. Slight build so not sure if he'll stand up to roughhouse defending. Few good runs, few mistakes.
Henin - LM = 1st time I've seen him and was impressed. Showed good, close skills, not afraid to take a man on, made a few mistakes / lost possession etc but for me the pluses far outweighed the minuses.

Couple of Preston lads shone for me - Heaton @ CB and James-Robinson in the midfield.

Thanks for the excellent report mate, since I can't go to the games really appreciate the impressions of those that do.

Btw was it Browning who was the left CB? Although right footed he seems quite adept at switching over sides for a young defender.

 

[sportbillyblue]

Thanks for the excellent report mate, since I can't go to the games really appreciate the impressions of those that do.

Btw was it Browning who was the left CB? Although right footed he seems quite adept at switching over sides for a young defender.

Yes. He was probably more impressive than my 'report' suggests.

 

[johnnydawg68]

Hope that helps aaron.

Well if they committed to showing the U21's and the U18's maybe more people would pay for EvertonTV and they could afford it? This isn't Rocket Science. Content is king. I'd pay for EvertonTV if I got more than just pre-season games.

 

[AaronTheBlue]

we're a premier league club and they can't afford it, is a little embarrassing, just make it subscription based.

 

[bluebrotha77]

Thanks for the excellent report mate, since I can't go to the games really appreciate the impressions of those that do.

Btw was it Browning who was the left CB? Although right footed he seems quite adept at switching over sides for a young defender.

yep i second that.fair play to fellow posters for keeping the rest of us up to date

 

[catcherintherye]

Lees is a new name at this level. He looks like a very tall strong defender even at age 16/17 so could be worth keeping an eye on him. Looks to be in the Browning mould of defender.