Match Thread Everton Vs Manchester City - Capital One Cup - Semi Final 1st Leg - Wednesday 6th January - 20:00 KO

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Apparantly Stones is at a mediocre club with mediocre players and must join a club Like city who can fulfil his potential
 
Anyway, I'm going tIn reference to my earlier post, it genuinely wasn't meant to be a wind up, just my honest assesment of the game and what I think will happen in the next leg!

Let's wait and see. Whoever goes through in our semi, I'll be cheering on in the final.
No worries mate, I never used to mind City or their fans but as you may have noticed I was fairly wound up after last night.

Word of advice though, if you fancy sticking around on here I would reign in some of the condescension because even if it isn't intended to it permeates all of your posts.
 
Here's my 2p on the game yesterday for anyone who's interested.

Everything started off rosy, it actually took me less time to get to Liverpool than it does to trawl across the mancunian way to the Etihad for a mid week game. Stopped off in the regular snooker bar just off Stanley Park cemetery to have a few pints and to taste the local cuisine; £1 ham/Cheese & Onion/Egg Mayo(For anyone who's brave enough) butties. There was also an interesting heater that consisted of a gas canister and a large blow torch type machine - I presume the health and safety specs are more liberal the further down the Mersey you get. For 3 pints, a coke and a couple barm cakes I got change out of tenner, again, following on this positive trend that 'today was going to be a good day'.

We arrived at the ground, got in fine, found our seats: one goal blocked by a pillar, the other blocked by the tallest man on planet Earth. It was probably for the best because IMO the game was awful.

I was initially impressed with Pellegrini's tactical decision to push Toure further forward with Delph holding, it could have been a great move if Yaya pulled his finger out. Aguero wasn't his usual self. Silva couldn't pass wind and KDB just didn't get going. It's more likely that your tactics were better then ours and you probably 'neutralized' us - but for me, a fan that pays hard earned money to support the team, I can't help but get the impression the players feel 'above' the competition. We don't move quick enough, there isn't any desire to chase back. Another thing that irks me, which I'm sure you'll probably disagree with, is the lack of pressure we place on officials and referee's in games. We really try and portray this professional image, we want to win things by the book, but that doesn't always work. Your first goal looked well offside, I'm not sure if the player who bagged was, but Lukaku I'm sure was a good 3/4 yards? Regardless, the whole team should have ran to the linesman and bollocked him, even if they let the goal stand (which they should) it puts him under pressure for the rest of the game - we probably get that penalty on Navas which would have changed the game. I thought the referee had a poor game and we let him off with it. All you ask for is consistency, if he's bad for both sides it's fine. He gave you a few fouls for 50/50 challenges, tackles from behind etc but when your players did the same to ours he wasn't interested. That penalty was stone wall, how they haven't seen that is a joke, Sunday league standard refereeing and it happens to often to us. As the game went on we got more and more into it, eventually scored from nothing (Aguero with a piece of world class football to set up Navas) and I thought, great, last 10 minutes now we'll go on and score a couple more here - one minute later you've scored. Then finally our game was summed up by you going down to 10 men and being able to play keep ball around roughly £100m worth of attacking talent. My mind was really put to rest after we took KDB off and replaced him with Fernando, talk about inspired subs.

From an Everton point of view I was impressed. It was worlds away from what I saw in August. The team were well up for the game, tactically you seemed to out run us, you won every second ball and Lukaku was like a lynch pin dragging our defense left and right creating space for your wingers to ease past our full backs. You couldn't have been set up better. I bet we had more possession and more passes then you, but it shows what a load of rubbish stats are. You were way more decisive and direct, you played on our weaknesses and in my view you would have been unfortunate had we robbed a draw. It was actually a shame that Mangala got injured in the end, he was just about containing Lukaku in the first half and maybe he'd have headed clear on your second but it's all if's, buts and maybe's!

I still think we'll beat you comfortably in the home leg and go through, but you've given yourselves a chance now.

The only positive I can take from the game is that I had a great day out, despite the result. There were a few funny exchanges between the fans (which you'd expect in a Manc/Scouse derby). I have to say, whoever is talking about City fans wrecking their own team bus and battering kids/spitting on women and whatever. I didn't see any of that. Some people really don't get the away culture in this country - just take all away fans as wind up merchants and don't let it upset you. It's the remains of the 80's and the liberty taking days. And for the record, my worst experiences with away fans in Manchester include your fans on more than one occasion, if you want to talk about minorities causing trouble my advice would be 'don't throw stones from glass houses', or perhaps, 'don't throw coins from level 2/3 in the return leg', cause I'm the unlucky [Poor language removed] who has to sit under you!

Although there has traditionally been a bit of a 'North West Derby' feel to our games, I think our fanbases have more in common then most think - I say to my friends, I'd prefer to spend a day with a scouser than a Cockney, because whether you like it or not we're probably the closest Cities, culture-wise in the UK!

Decent post that mate. I always had a soft spot for City and I think your last paragraph is definitely spot on, two working class cities who love football and music. There's no doubt I'm resentful and in honesty jealous that you got the takeover with money, it is only normal. However I'd have felt the same way towards anyone else and of all the teams that could have got it I can think of few who probably deserved it more than City for what you've had to deal with over the years.

Anyway to the game. In August you were absolutely flying, Toure was really up for it and Kompany is the main man for you guys. I get the feeling there's a soft underbelly to City after that. We were able to press you well and currently Lukaku is in better form than Ageuro and as we got him into the game you struggled. Mangala played him brilliantly in August (better than anyone in the last 12 months) but I suppose I have to disagree with your assessment, I thought he really struggled last night.

As for the refs decisions, too much has been made of them for me. Anyone would think you were the side who had 2 disallowed goals! While both were offside they were both only a yard or so. As for the first goal, Mori is stood about 4 yards onside mate. Lukaku is maybe a foot offside, it's close but either way in the current rule book he's not interfering so the right decision was made. As regards the penalty, what I can say is it was definitely not stone wall. There is minimal contact. A touch and go one, given the two disallowed goals I think we were probably due one to go in our favour. I'd have been annoyed had it been given but could see why it would have been. Real time though, it didn't look a pen.

I think you were hard done to though in terms of the 50/50 decisions. Osman just booted Sagna and should have been booked. Coleman pushed over one of your players and no free kick was given and Besic was lucky to escape without a booking.

I don't think the ref was the cause of your problems last night though. If you got the pen you'd have got to 1-1 you equalised later anyway and showed your soft underbelly and conceded. I imagine that's how it would have gone irrespective.

As for us, you don't need to tell us about rubbish stats mate! We have regularly won the possession game and lost the game. I thought we all played well tonight. In every area we matched for my money the best team in the country so well chuffed with that.

There's little doubt you guys could give us a hammering in January, especially if Kompany is back. You are very strong at home and have an 11 filled with great players offensively. I think it's in the balance though. We lost 2-1 at Arsenal earlier on and have not conceded many goals away this season. We seem to go back to basics and keep our shape better. We also have the ability (if Kompany isn't fit) to score at City possibly more than once.

I wouldn't like to be a betting man on it. A lot will depend on what City turns up. Sterling, Toure etc are all hot and cold and from what you say De Bruyne is inconsistent too. Silva hasn't hit his best yet. I still think you have to get all your players working to their optimum like you were back in August.
 
Only disappointment was the scoreline. The way Everton got on top in the second half, they should be going to Manchester with at least a two goal cushion.

The difference Besic makes can't be overstated. He takes no messing and actually puts the team on the front foot with his passing, which offsets the issues caused by always having a naturally central player on the wing. I couldn't have been more impressed with him.

I particularly enjoyed the keep-ball session when down to ten in the final few minutes, although it should be said that City's players are an absolute disgrace to the good name of money. What a lazy shower.
 
No worries mate, I never used to mind City or their fans but as you may have noticed I was fairly wound up after last night.

Word of advice though, if you fancy sticking around on here I would reign in some of the condescension because even if it isn't intended to it permeates all of your posts.



Jesus, what the hell has gotten in to you today? You and Sapie having a domestic?
 
....lots in the Echo about post match brawls in Priory Rd, a City fan apparently spitting at women and another confronting an old man. I thought those days had gone, very sad.
 
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