Match Thread Everton v Manchester City - Preview, Match Report and MotM Poll

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BlueToff said:
He is still playing like we have Gana.

Which was always going to be the main problem of selling him.

The 'poor in both boxes' line. He can't finish chances for the team, at the end of the day. I understand what you're saying but he doesn't make DCL miss from a yard out.
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DCL is NOT a prem lge striker ! In my opinion never has been never will be. Derby/ Blackburn at best. Poor control and a "holder" target man. Not a goalscorer.
 
ToffeeTim said:
Keane was ball watching. He should never have got such an easy header. You don't try to push out when you see its KDB. It's certainly not easy to defend but we have to be better.

3 straight losses. 8 conceded. 12 conceded in last 6 overall. It's shambolic. Our centre backs are not doing their job.

I can't understand why people assume it's just a blip. We saw exactly the same last year for 2 months.

I doubt he'll change. He does the same every week. He has no previous to suggest he's good enough to manage everton. I have no faith and think it's inevitable he goes and would rather it happens before were out of both cups in January.
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I don't assume it's a blip which is why I've said if it doesn't change he needs to go.

Ultimately I'm not sure I trust the people in charge to make a better appointment, though. And I don't really want us sacking another manager who has shown promise and clearly is a good coach on the training field.
 
BlueToff said:
Hmm, I'm not sure on that.

We did make the most of their defensive issues. To say we didn't cause them problems wouldn't be true. Their goalkeeper made three top-class saves.

Of course we could have been better but we went toe-to-toe with them and they're a better side. You can say 'wide open' defensively but that's because we were pushing up to try and do them the other way. They are an incredible team and they showed it.

They brought on three of the best 15 players in world football when it was 1-1. They have those options. We don't.

It's not an excuse but losing to City - this City team, even with their problems at the back - is not the end of the world. At least because we showed more grit and determination and intent than in most games this season.

It's not good enough. Burnley's a must-win. Everyone involved in the club and playing side, from DoF down, needs to sharpen up. Silva needs to be told to be more proactive. If he isn't, he'll have to go. And Brands has to have a long hard look at his dealings this summer because frankly they haven't been up to scratch leaving the squad in such short supply in certain areas.
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I think you’re being a bit harsh on Brands. He has a complete mess to sort out. Our net spend was low in comparison to what needs to be spent to bring in players that will make a significant difference and our wages as a percentage of turnover are dangerously high - what do you expect him to do without the level of resources required?

I’m also frustrated that we are short in key positions, but if the players we wanted were not available or affordable, the solution is not to repeat the mistakes of the past few years and overpay for second best.
 
City were there for the taking today, we had a few chances but didn't take them. Not sure we actually created enough. They look really poor defensively and will drop points to other teams, that's what makes it so disappointing and frustrating.

We are seriously in danger of being involved in a relegation battle this year and I am very worried at the moment
 
ganistuk said:
I think you’re being a bit harsh on Brands. He has a complete mess to sort out. Our net spend was low in comparison to what needs to be spent to bring in players that will make a significant difference and our wages as a percentage of turnover are dangerously high - what do you expect him to do without the level of resources required?

I’m also frustrated that we are short in key positions, but if the players we wanted were not available or affordable, the solution is not to repeat the mistakes of the past few years and overpay for second best.
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I'm confident we have the right man but having a mess to sort out doesn't excuse us not bolstering the CB position. It also doesn't excuse us going into the season with Kean and DCL as our first-choice forwards. We went for Zaha last minute. Why? We had all summer.

We also sold our best player and now the manager is trying to play in the same way. Yes, we brought in replacements but ultimately you can't be playing the same way. But also, we shouldn't keep selling our best players. It gets us nowhere.
 
Catfish Blues said:
It's probably an unpopular opinion, but I had Schneiderlin down as MOTM for us.

For once, he had options to pass to in front of him, and, again for once, he wasn't afraid to play the ball forward, which made him look ten times the player he looks like when he's in crab mode.
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Coleman for me, personally.

Thought that was probably his best performance in about a season.
 
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