Everton v Chelsea. 30th August at 17.30.

[marty mcfly]

Absolutely puzzling.

Someone said it earlier. His confidence is gone. Its still on the grass somewhere in brazil. He should take this time off now to go and buy a new arse, cos the one he has right now, is in pieces.

Phil?? WAKE THE F UP LAD. Players are looking to you!!

No it's not confidence. It has been since his injury. Distin also hasn't been quite the same. Both hamstrings.

 

[slimspek]

Osman didn't play today

 

[Mozza1987]

McCarthy was very good again today - covered for a tiring Barry and had to cover for Jags as well. Distin was poor but Jags was just all over the place - couldn't deal with Costa. It was suicidal trying to play a high line against the pace they have in the side, but if anyone finishes above them this season they'll be the team that wins the league. Disappointing start to the season is entirely down to bad defending and

McCarthy was poor! Was his fault for two of the goals, not closing down, not tracking runs and just letting Chelsea players walk past him. Not seen him play that bad before

 

[maccavennie]

Hahahahaha

They turned the screw at will and scored

It was like Wigan Vs Spurs when they were hammered 7-0

Total embarrassment tonight and there is nothing to suggest that Martinez can fix a defensive unit

Thats harsh Del as we had the 3rd or 4th best defensive unit last season. We look badly gash atm but i think he can get it sorted. I disagreed with you in another thread about pre season which i was wrong about and you were spot on about so i may be wrong again as well!

 

[Snoka]

Yes

No

 

[mkrudden]

Crazy game!

Coleman, Kev, Eto and Naismith were excellent.

I find it hard to believe we conceded so many bad goals.

I have to say, and I'm a staunch Jagielka fan, that our skipper needs to be dropped for that. Bring in Stones who performed well alongside Distin last year

 

[Tree13]

If we can just stop letting attackers have free runs in behind our defense than we win that game 3-1 or at worse we draw. I'm not sure if it's a matter of getting in different personnel or changing something tactically.

Looked like our lads were much fitter this match, energy wasn't an issue. So at least we fixed one problem from last week.

Our attack wasn't capitalizing on mistakes so much as it was creating scoring opportunities. Cut the defensive mistakes and we're going to beat a lot of good teams.

Barry and McGeady were dead on their feet around 60 minutes. Barry was so far off the pace his name wasn't mentioned by the commentary team at all in the second half.

 

[toffeejack]

On paper mate you are absolutely eight mate. But Jags left his balls of steel in Brazil and in turn Distin is looking like he's got the shits. Year on, year older, in a different mindset to where they need to be and still short if match fitness. Once again Jags, Distin and McCarthy could have been taken off from 65 minutes onwards. The defending was simply because mentally and physically we aren't sharp enough. I thought today we would but i was wrong and still look another 2 weeks away. When we do get the fitness sorted we will destroy quite a few sides.

yeah, think martinez has got it wrong, i did say after arsenal stones should be starting now, he'll make mistakes but the lad oozes not only class, but confidence, he's a different player.

those two have always been scared when playing big games against the best strikers, i don't think stones will provide us with that problem going forward tbh.

 

[Space Cowboy]

Out of interest, when was the last time we conceded 6 goals at home?

 

[Del]

Thats harsh Del as we had the 3rd or 4th best defensive unit last season. We look badly gash atm but i think he can get it sorted. I disagreed with you in another thread about pre season which i was wrong about and you were spot on about so i may be wrong again as well!

He took over a side drilled by Moyes, I hope to god I am wrong, Because if he is effecting our ability to defend and tonight is the result of that then we have serious problems

 

[Matthew mcdonnell]

On paper mate you are absolutely eight mate. But Jags left his balls of steel in Brazil and in turn Distin is looking like he's got the shits. Year on, year older, in a different mindset to where they need to be and still short if match fitness. Once again Jags, Distin and McCarthy could have been taken off from 65 minutes onwards. The defending was simply because mentally and physically we aren't sharp enough. I thought today we would but i was wrong and still look another 2 weeks away. When we do get the fitness sorted we will destroy quite a few sides.

Fitness can improve all it likes, but jags and distin aren't good enough for a team pushing for 4th

 

[marty mcfly]

I'm gonna write off the league form anyway mate and just hope we win a trophy this year. I dont think we will get top 4, in fact we deffo won't with that defence. Like you though mate i actually enjoyed large chunks of that game. We done well to make a game of it considering we were 2-0 down after 4 minutes. Howard, Jags, Distin, Baines, McCarthy, Barry and Mcgeady need to be fined for that performance though!

I can't see top 4 either. Arsenal, Chelsea and City are almost guaranteed the first 3 places and Spurs as I feared look brilliant under Pochitino and then there's still the RS.

 

[Matthew mcdonnell]

Out of interest, when was the last time we conceded 6 goals at home?

arsenal 1-6

 

[Big Fat Sam]

Laughing? Really? Jesus!

I am pmsl at the comedy pair of Jagielka and Distin

 

[edge]

Got beat by a better side and didnt help arselfs at all we are not good enough defending as a team.
Thing that worries me is the number of players looking unfit or off the pace if were not careful the season will be away from us by the time we get going.
Said before the game chelsea will be right up there and they look good , always looked like they could up there game.