Everton has never been the same since.

[Lawrence]

Kenwright is the primary factor of underachievement since he joined the B.O.D the truth is its ALL ABOUT HIM. Secondary factors losing to Liverpool and Panathanikos in the same week, then Catterick losing his health in every-way and selling Ball.

Heysel is the one we will never really know about and its been our comfort blanket. Do we know the B.O.D would not have cashed in on certain players? The stadium was still an issue then especially the Park End. Yes it was a wonderful wonderful team but I am not convinced we had the ambition to borrow money to keep the team and improve every element of the club, do not forget we won the league again following that disaster where innocent people lost their lives.

 

[Black Belt Jones]

Kenwright is the primary factor of underachievement since he joined the B.O.D the truth is its ALL ABOUT HIM. Secondary factors losing to Liverpool and Panathanikos in the same week, then Catterick losing his health in every-way and selling Ball.

Heysel is the one we will never really know about and its been our comfort blanket. Do we know the B.O.D would not have cashed in on certain players? The stadium was still an issue then especially the Park End. Yes it was a wonderful wonderful team but I am not convinced we had the ambition to borrow money to keep the team and improve every element of the club, do not forget we won the league again following that disaster where innocent people lost their lives.

I think to dominate for a long period of time, over more than one cycle of a squad, you need quality off and on the pitch and not sure we ever had that since Moores (which was before my time). The 80s success was down to Kendall 100% so regardless of what might have happened without a European ban, once he stepped down it was only ever going one way. There wasn't that leadership on the board for sustained success.

Seemed like a lot of stuffed shirts running the club at that time - Sir Philip Carter was a good clubman and a respected voice in the league, but it needed someone way more dynamic to take the reins at that time.
The prem was a bit of a slow burner, as well, IIRC - people talk about it now like 1992 was some sort of year zero, the day the money faucet was turned on. But it took a while to get going which makes it all the more aggravating to have missed the boat - it needed ambition to borrow money and think big like you say, but it wasn't like a wild 100-1 shot that needed a crazed visionary to see.

 

[nevsonlymate]

Rooney signed for United....just saying

Not 100% sure but did we buy any new players before we played Villrreal in 2005 ,were we just waiting to see if we reached the Cl before splashing some cash, I missed opportunity

 

[Groucho]

Rooney signed for United....just saying

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

Heysel.


Lead to the systematic breakup of the best club side in World football.

 

[ToffeeLee1878]

Since a takeover in December 1999..three months after our last win at anfield ,mediocrity has been encouraged and promoted ever since ..7th heaven DVD’s for example

 

[CrustySack]

Heysel.

Everton were set to dominate English and European football with Kendall's young side. Kendall was young himself. It was the beginning of our dynasty, but was cruelly snatched away in the most horrific of circumstances. The club has been in a state of mourning ever since.

 

[HKIV]

Since they stopped renting the cusions in the upper bullens.

Silva would be well gone if they were still sold, the over 70's would be lobbing them almost all the way to the dugouts.

 

[marcus]

Since David Moyes left....

 

[john jako]

Hibbo left. He understood us, we understood him. Miss you.

 

[captainvindaloo]

I think it was all of the above. A series of unfortunate events, aligned with some poor decision making, season after season, until here we are with this thread.

 

[Goat]

Heysel.


Lead to the systematic breakup of the best club side in World football.

It defo hurt us in the short term, but it should never have gutted us, we gutted us.

 

[GwladysBlue]

Since Lescott was sold to Man City.

That 2009 team had great potential but Blue Bill and his determination not to sell halted anything that could have been.

How that knobhead is still chairman here is beyond me. Can’t wait for the day he finally pisses off.

 

[hktoffee]

Since Moyes left.

 

[TraffordBlue]

Heysel and the ban.... not even a debate.

It's true.

However, it's also a poor excuse for the club (not the fans, who have every right to still feel aggrieved) to fall back on this many years later.

We've had plenty of opportunities to progress since the 90's which we have failed to do. We can point to many different points since then, but in the last decade we haven't recovered from losing Moyes, and then Lukaku. .