Everton 'B' Team

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Wizard said:
Apparently it really hasn't been much of a success in Germany. Been following Rafael Honigstein on Twitter while this has been going on today and he is really against it. He also posted this article by Uli Hesse which outlines ways in which it isn't working for a lot of the German clubs. For some it costs too much to maintain. For others the quality of the leagues they play in just isn't high enough to develop talent leading teams to buying players and loaning them out rather than developing youth.

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/_/name/bundesliga/id/647?cc=5739

As for Spain, it is slightly different to what we would get. Our B teams wouldn't be eligible for the Championship so League 2 at best. We send our good youngsters mainly to the Championship, not lower.

Also, what happens if in League 2 the top teams at the end of the season are 5 or 6 'B' teams (which is very feasible). You then get teams that have finished 7th,8th and lower getting promoted.
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It wouldn't really be worth it if they weren't playing anybody better than they currently play, i.e. other reasonably talented youngsters. I also don't like the idea of Ryan Ledson or someone similar going to league 2 and getting his leg broke by Gary the plumber because he's run rings round him for 89 minutes and he's pissed off cos his new bird is watching and he's embarrassed.
 

If you're good enough you're old enough - a saying that I used to believe gospel.

It's not true in this country , it really isn't...to a point. Teams with lots of money and whose Chairmen demand instant success rarely have a team full of home growns. The Utd Golden generation happen once in a lifetime. Teams trying to catch the Elites have maybe 1 - 5 home growns the rest are foreign buys.

No point in a B-team until we look at reducing the number of sub-standard foreign signings. I'm not talking about the Yaya Toure's of this League them sort of players are welcome and belong here.

We all know that a lot of our youngsters get left behind because a players agent can sell a foreigner to a manager rather than use the youth team. So I'm up for the youngsters getting the most competitive football they can get.
 
Didn't Martinez say you can't judge how good a player he really is until he's played 200 competitive games?

Bottom line it's about playing sides that have something to play for to me.
 

The reason England are crap is because for years players who were in the the "top 4" got picked because of their club status rather than a decent player for say Sunderland having a better season than them.

An secondly No B team crap is gonna help England be better than Spain there nauturally better than English players and if you want to know why read a book called Inverting the Pyramid by Jonathan Wilson.

The FA only have themselves to blame for not progressing with football over the years they ignored English forward thinkers of the game and allowed them to go abroad an share their ideas there instead also ignored foreign progression of the game too shared to the world.
 
Lower league sides are understandably against it because they fear that they'll end up falling further down the pecking order and closer to extinction. The thing is that they're struggling as it is though and it needs a shake up to prevent a number of them from going to the wall.

I can appreciate why their are concerns that the 'feeder' system will jeopardise the integrity of football in this country but it seems like the most obvious solution.
 
Boss idea there is a lost generation at the club, where what do we do with them, Duffy, Hope, Lundstrum, Kenny, etc!

Looking at Mustafi and Baxter thrive elsewhere - this can only be good for us!

I wonder would it leave us short though, if Ledson was in the B Team could he be called for the Pl bench!

Surprised the likes of a Hope now are in there 20s!
 
Coach said:
Absolutely terrible idea.

As stated above - pump some of the billions into grassroots footy.

More pitches (grass and astroturf) are desperately needed so build loads of these and let local tams use them for free. Also, make all the coaching and refereeing courses free.

Without grassroots footy we will never get the players for B teams anyway.
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It's the people at the top making it look like they know how to fix it.
The Spanish national team did not end up as Euro and World champions thanks to their B team system. Despite it, if anything. Has anybody ever been to a lower league game over there? Like having your pubes pulled out with tweezers (I could imagine, anyway). They are glorified reserve leagues and contribute to the fact that there is little local identification with local teams, bar manic examples like Bilbao.

The issues with the English national team go beyond the level and quantity of football our young footballers get. I don't pretend to know the solution to the lack of success of the English national team, but I'm sure that these proposals will do zilch to address them.
 

Everton B? We started one in about 1892.

Gave them a ground of their own to play on and everything.

No good ever came from it.

(Except perhaps Peter Beardsley and Johnny Morrisey. Oh, OK and Sheeds. But apart from that...)
 
It really doesn't make any sense at all. If these plans go through all that will happen is the bigger teams ie Man City/Chelsea etc will stock pile any young players that look half decent and then you still only have 11 players they can play in a B team so a lot of possible talented youngsters will be kicking their heels on a saturday afternoon.

As for people saying that there will be increased revenue for the lower league teams? Why will there? Ok maybe for the first half a season when its all shiny and new people may get excited but once the newness wears off it will go back to what it is now or even worse. How many of us realistically would travel to say Southend to watch our 'B' team play on a saturday afternoon? Gates will plummet in the league eventually as the bigger teams supporters will not travel when they have the first team to watch.
 
What do you think on this? martinez is backing it http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-b-teams-roberto-3516668 . personally i dont think its fair on lower league teams fighting to stay in the football league or teams fighting to go up a league fans like pompey what take thousands everywhere could get releagted by a b team which will have no fans imagine the money the club would lose could cause them to go into administration again same with other teams. i think each team should just get a feeder team
 

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