Europa League - Good or Bad?

Europa League through Fair Play

  • Yes - It would be a good thing.

    Votes: 141 72.3%
  • No - Concentrate on domestic league/cups.

    Votes: 54 27.7%

  • Total voters
    195
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Indeed. If they can't get through at that level, they all deserve releasing.

Couple of years ago there were two lads that were released and both went to Aberystwyth, I've forgotten who now. And they didn't stand out at all to be honest.
 
Last season, March 2014 he spoke of needing six new players to compete in the Europa as well as domestic league;

I half remember this from the time and it's hard not to conclude that he was right.
I also remember him saying that there's a difference whether we qualify for champion's league or europa in whether you can afford your top targets or have to compromise a bit.
Rom was obviously right at the top of that top targets list and yet we missed out on the big show.
I'd guess that faced with the prospect of losing a short window of opportunity to sign one of the most promising striking talents in the world he decided to prioritise him over the 4 or 5 2nd tier targets he stated we need.
We've suffered for that decision this season no question but it's a choice that can't be judged over the course of a single season.
What's the budget going to look like for the summer?
Are we going to get 32m again or thereabouts, to spread over 4 or 5 players this time, or was that a total one off?
I reckon the answer to that question answers whether we'll be equipped to make a better fist of tackling all that extra football.
On balance I'd probably say embrace it regardless of how much dollar we have to throw around.
I think the experience our young players gain is priceless longer term and the future Everton is all I have to celebrate in my head as this year's version splutters towards it's end.
 
I'd normally say if there's a chance of Europe, you aim for it.

But honestly, with the season we've had, we have a massive job on next year to not collapse permanently into a mid table side and I don't think the manager would even want the European distraction when we need to get back to basics urgently.
 
Serious question:

What is the point of the Europa League?

Just wait for a minute and ask yourself that. Why does the Europa League exist? We've got the Champions League, why do we need second-tier European competition?
 
Remember a few people saying at the start of the season/end of the season before, that for Everton to be a consistent CL team, we need to have a few seasons in the EL (look at Atletico). We've had one, albeit poor. Now we have the chance to get it again, and most likely, we would have a better season next season with the experience from this season. No-one can predict what would happen next season, especially with EL qualification. Very slim chance of Everton turning into a consistent CL team, but even if there is a chance, I'm all for it.
 
Serious question:

What is the point of the Europa League?

Just wait for a minute and ask yourself that. Why does the Europa League exist? We've got the Champions League, why do we need second-tier European competition?
Good question, although I love to see Everton in Europe. Asked that same question about the League Cup tbh. I mean, what purpose does it serve? Big clubs fielding weaker line ups, just like the relegation threatened sides. Only beginning to take it serious from the semi final onwards. Can't understand why the winner still gets a ticket for the EL.
 
We're 3rd in the Fair Play league. And cos LFC are top, only West Ham are ahead of us. There's a lot better chance than 40/60.

There's 30 points separating 1st and 10th, which tells me that it's difficult to gain points in a short time in whatever way they calculate it.

I'd be mildly surprised if we "qualified".
 
There's 30 points separating 1st and 10th, which tells me that it's difficult to gain points in a short time in whatever way they calculate it.

I'd be mildly surprised if we "qualified".

We're 3rd. We only need to be 2nd.

This is the latest table, before this weekend's games:

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Yesterday, we had 2 players booked, and West Ham had 1 player booked. Yet West Ham committed more fouls than us, which is also something you get marked on.

You get marked on:

Red & Yellow Cards
Positive play
Respect towards opponent
Respect towards the referee
Behaviour of officials (management & coaches)

You can EASILY make up 10 points in one game, let alone two. Especially when we are facing our key rivals next week,

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http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/fair-play-calculation.html

The Barclays Premier League believes that Fair Play is essential for the enjoyment of fans and development of the sport.


To promote positive behaviour, the Football Association has established a Fair Play competition, with all Barclays Premier League matches being assessed by delegates.

Teams are assessed in five categories, with a further category relating to the behaviour of the public. This is how the points are calculated.

1. Red and yellow cards

Maximum score = 10
Yellow card = -1 point
Red card = -3 points
No minimum score

If a player who is on a yellow card (-1 point) commits another yellow card offence, only the red card will count (-3 points). But if a player who has already been cautioned then commits a red card offence, both cards will count (so the player will receive -4 points). This is the only section in which it is possible to receive a score below zero.

2. Positive play

Maximum score = 10
Minimum score = 1

This is designed to encourage attractive play that will increase the enjoyment of spectators and the following areas are taken into consideration:



Positive

- Using attacking tactics, not defensive
- Speeding up the game
- Efforts to gain time (e.g. bringing the ball back into play quickly even if the team is in a winning position)
- Continuing to push for goals when in a winning position

Negative

- Slowing down the game
- Time wasting
- Tactics based on foul play
- Play-acting (simulation)

3. Respect towards opponents
Maximum score = 7
Minimum score = 1

Players should respect the Laws of the Game and abide by the spirit of Fair Play. The Fair Play delegate’s assessment will not double count items already covered in the ‘Red and Yellow cards’ category, but the seriousness of the offences punished by cards may be considered. This category will also include offences overlooked by the referee.

Any single major incident between players may have a significant bearing on the final score.

Blameless behaviour without any particularly positive attitude or gestures is likely to receive a score of 6 rather than 7.

4. Respect towards the referee

Maximum score = 7
Minimum score = 1

Players are expected to respect the officials - including assistants - at all times.

The Fair Play delegate’s assessment will not double count items already covered in the ‘Red and Yellow cards’ but the seriousness of the offences punished by cards may be considered.

Any single major incident may have a significant bearing on the score.

A positive attitude, including the acceptance of doubtful decisions without protest, will be rewarded with high marks. Normal behaviour without any particular positive attitudes or gestures towards match officials is likely to receive a score of 6 rather than 7.

5. Behaviour of the team officials
Maximum score = 6
Minimum score = 1

Team officials, including coaches, are expected to develop the sporting, technical and tactical level of their team – and instruct players to behave in accordance with the Fair Play principles.

Positive and negative aspects of the team officials’ conduct will be assessed – such as whether they calm down or provoke angry players or fans and how they accept the decisions of the referee. Co-operation with the media will also be taken into account.

Any single major incident may have a significant bearing on the final mark, as will breaches of the regulations governing the dugout and technical area.

Blameless behaviour without any particularly positive attitudes or gestures is likely to receive a score of 5 rather than 6.

For categories 1-5, the overall assessment of a team is obtained by adding up the points given for the individual categories, dividing this sum by the maximum points score (40) and multiplying it by 10.

In addition, there is one further category assessed by the Fair Play delegate.

6. Behaviour of the public
Maximum score = 10
Minimum score = 0

All teams begin with a score of 5 points. A maximum of a further 5 points can be added for:


- Verbal support in acceptable form
- Covert recognition of outstanding play by the opponents

A maximum of 5 points can be deducted for:


- Persistent foul and abusive language
- Persistent abuse of the officials’ decisions
- Aggressive and threatening conduct towards opposing fans
 
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