Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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It really is the whole economic system - the fact that more and more youngsters now will never afford to buy their own home, the lack of decent social housing and the casino economy manipulated by foreign exchange and share speculators leading to the collapse of the banking system which then gets bailed out by taxpayers. In a way what Philip Green did with BHS or those owners of Rover did in creaming off money is also happening in effect with those in the banking or financial industries. This is why arguing over Brexit or not is somewhat missing the point as without radical change in our foundations things will likely get worse for ordinary people.

I think the crux of this is less about whether someone is 'ordinary' or not but rather whether they're educated or not. It's hard now if you're relatively unskilled and trying to find your way in the labour market, and that is only likely to get more so in future. It's hard to over-stress that really.
 
Britain needs a 'good compromise' from the EU in Brexit negotiations as so many countries rely on the UK for security and their own economies, the Polish Prime Minister has warned.

Describing Brexit as the UK 'leaving the EU, but not leaving Europe', Beata Szydlo said Poland would conduct negotiations in a 'down-to-earth' manner, and called on other EU nations to do the same.

Ahead of an historic meeting with Theresa May today, Mrs Szydlo added that her nation was saddened by the result of the referendum and called on any negotiations to consider how the economic and security interests of Britain and many EU members are 'intertwined'.

Writing in the Daily Telegraph, she said: 'We hope, as I believe the rest of the EU hopes, that Britain's new relationship with the EU will be as close as possible, and based on the principles of proportionality and balance of rights and obligations.

Beata Szydlo said Poland would conduct negotiations in a 'down-to-earth' manner, and called on other EU nations to do the same

'Whether we manage to complete this arduous task of bringing negotiations to a satisfying result will depend solely on our imagination and leadership.

'We need a good compromise which gives both our countries the best possible options for economic and security co-operation.

'Poland will be a constructive partner in this process, as we have been in the past – but the initiative for determining British ambitions and expectations as to the future level of co-operation with the EU has to come from London.'
 
I think the crux of this is less about whether someone is 'ordinary' or not but rather whether they're educated or not. It's hard now if you're relatively unskilled and trying to find your way in the labour market, and that is only likely to get more so in future. It's hard to over-stress that really.

And in 20 years time it won't be low wage immigrants we need to worry about, it will be wholesale automation of manufacturing.

The rich will need to understand that they need to pay off the unskilled when that day comes or there will be no-one to aim the anger at but the rich.
 
And in 20 years time it won't be low wage immigrants we need to worry about, it will be wholesale automation of manufacturing.

The rich will need to understand that they need to pay off the unskilled when that day comes or there will be no-one to aim the anger at but the rich.
History tells you mechanisation in factories or any industry the staff are cast aside do you remember the Luddites from the early ages of factories smashing the machinery as their mundane jobs were going??
Back to the EU one negotiator has stated an idea for staying in the single market is for the Remainers to pay a fee for EU citizenship - absolutely fine by me let them pay our membership fee - radio LBC this am a northern town a guy rang in , and stated all this fume he felt a 2nd referendum could lead to a 60 or 70 % leave people up there are that upset over the polictical elite ignoring the result -
Its another way of smokes and mirrors of trying to stay in a single market that we will have eventual free acces too as the EU needs us more than we need them!
 
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not sure of nuttall is good for ukip or not, he will appeal to working class vote i guess...but he doesnt come across great in public and not sure if he will be able to unite ukip...
 
I see the bad Bootle meff is leader of UKIP.

Bunch of oddballs.

Why do they still exist? If their goal was UK independence then why are they not disbanded?
It's because the referendum result has not been carried out any blip and they will be back on the scene with farage still in theory as leader!
if we leave the UKIP fox will be shot!
 
Both sides in the Europe and the UK, need to sort out the soft - med - hard boiled Brexit thing first.

Access to markets, free access of people and paying money in; that's Norway that is...and they are technically out.

I feel that any sort of Brexit 'egg' WITH free people access will be against the 'spirit' of the brexit vote

This whole thing will run and run and will all end in tears.
 
Both sides in the Europe and the UK, need to sort out the soft - med - hard boiled Brexit thing first.

Access to markets, free access of people and paying money in; that's Norway that is...and they are technically out.

I feel that any sort of Brexit 'egg' WITH free people access will be against the 'spirit' of the brexit vote

This whole thing will run and run and will all end in tears.
Exactly that's why UKIP will still haunt any government!
 
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