Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Pienaar's gloves]

we are not falling into recession or going off that cliff the experts of Remain stated though are we?

I didn't predict that Joey, however at present there is no sign of us falling into an immediate recession.

When we leave though, well that depends on the deal and I'm not convinced we have the right people sorting it out.

 

[peteblue]

we are not falling into recession or going off that cliff the experts of Remain stated though are we?

Doesn't look like it Joey, but I expect one of them will shortly be back to give some other point in the future when we will definitely be in recession......

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

If the 'misunderstanding' is accepted by both men, why do you have a problem with it. Did you see what some people called Trump before his election........

I am allowed to think he's a buffoon, Pete.

I have a problem with some of the folk we are sending out to the EU at present to represent us, including Davis, illustrated by his error in judgement before the select committee.

 

[peteblue]

I didn't predict that Joey, however at present there is no sign of us falling into an immediate recession.

When we leave though, well that depends on the deal and I'm not convinced we have the right people sorting it out.

You're not convinced. So what type of CV would convince you......

 

[The Esk]

These are exploratory talks between two sets of buffoons. Remember, negotiations cannot begin until article 50 is activated.....

Except that the two baffoons are Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union and one of three European Parliament negotiators. All that can result from this meeting is a hardening of attitudes on both sides.

But then that satisfies the narrative, as both can blame the other and get on with the hard brexit they both want, which is a complete lose/lose situation and should be stopped at all costs.

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

You're not convinced. So what type of CV would convince you......

One that demonstrates pragmatism, negotiation skills and less ideological conservatism would go some way towards calming my fears.

OH, and compromise.

It is of course a great pleasure to me that all the little bits will be left to the civil service, but the tone is being set by the politicians, who I fear have the wrong interests at heart and lack some of the skills required.

 

[Joey66]

we are not falling into recession or going off that cliff the experts of Remain stated though are we?
Growth - up
unemployment -down
borrowing - down
retail sales - up
to think Gideon was going to have a punishment austerity budget if we voted in brexit !

That's it a lap of honour around the room on my walking stick and frame that post PG liked my postlol

 

[The Esk]

we are not falling into recession or going off that cliff the experts of Remain stated though are we?
Growth - up
unemployment -down
borrowing - down
retail sales - up
to think Gideon was going to have a punishment austerity budget if we voted in brexit !

Growth slowing
Job vacancies falling
Borrowing - record high
retail sales - up
Inflation - up
Likely direction of interest rates - up

 

[The Esk]

By the way, back in 1994 we were one of three European countries to oppose Verhofstadt's election to Commission President despite him having the backing of Germany, France and the Repblic of Ireland.

 

[Joey66]

Growth slowing
Job vacancies falling
Borrowing - record high
retail sales - up
Inflation - up
Likely direction of interest rates - up

Job vacancies 3/4 of a million but probably part time the economy has not fell of the cliff investment from facebook , nissan, and google showing the EU is not the b all and the end all you project!
we can trade with europe we just do not need a polictical union !
thats why I feel the out vote won!

 

[peteblue]

Except that the two baffoons are Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union and one of three European Parliament negotiators. All that can result from this meeting is a hardening of attitudes on both sides.

But then that satisfies the narrative, as both can blame the other and get on with the hard brexit they both want, which is a complete lose/lose situation and should be stopped at all costs.

All they are doing is setting the scene, organising potential dates, attendees etc, it's just preparation stuff, stop panicking......

 

[peteblue]

By the way, back in 1994 we were one of three European countries to oppose Verhofstadt's election to Commission President despite him having the backing of Germany, France and the Repblic of Ireland.

Just shows we have decent judgement, because we also opposed Juncker....

 

[peteblue]

Growth slowing
Job vacancies falling
Borrowing - record high
retail sales - up
Inflation - up
Likely direction of interest rates - up

Dear god Esk, if Everton won 5-0 then 6-1 you'd tell us the sky is falling in.......

 

[nuthead]

All they are doing is setting the scene, organising potential dates, attendees etc, it's just preparation stuff, stop panicking......

That's the job of the civil service. Aren't these meeting about establishing what we are actually going to negotiate? Taking soundings from each other to see what's achievable? Which is going to be very little if both sides are playing it like poker

 

[The Esk]

Dear god Esk, if Everton won 5-0 then 6-1 you'd tell us the sky is falling in.......

Just setting the record straight Pete.