Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Joey66]

If the EU is taking as hard a negotiation stance as you suggest, then surely that is all the more reason to scrutinise the negotiations, as it means the consequences of those negotiations are potentially more severe.

Negotiations haven't begun and you seem to have the strange attitude of "well, a newspaper article suggested they're going to be hardline, so let's not bother even trying". Bizarre.

What negotiations will they be then if that messsage is being sent pointless debates in saying we wan this we want that?
When the two finger sign is aledgedly all ready there?

 

[Joey66]

I would have voted against these daft lightbulbs we now have.

get the old ones from home bargain

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

What negotiations will they be then if that messsage is being sent pointless debates in saying we wan this we want that?
When the two finger sign is aledgedly all ready there?

We've pointed that at ourselves by refusing free movement and sending Boris out to ask for membership of the single market.

 

[SNova]

And he argued correctly didn't he?

Weird that you posted a video that basically reinforced the point of the post made.

No. Andrew Neil shown that the quotes were taken out of context

We've pointed that at ourselves by refusing free movement and sending Boris out to ask for membership of the single market.

Why would we accept free movement? The majority of the country don't want it.

 

[Tubey]

Didnt some tiny bit of Belgium nearly scupper that deal at the last minute as well?

Yes. One region, Wallonia.

And that's with Canada.

I think at this point only a madman would think we'd get an FTA with the EU with total agreement any time soon. We'll be on WTO rules and all the baggage that goes with it.

 

[Joey66]

We've pointed that at ourselves by refusing free movement and sending Boris out to ask for membership of the single market.

If we are out the EU free movement from the EU other than visa travel is dead?

 

[Tubey]

No. Andrew Neil shown that the quotes were taken out of context.

No he didn't. He said they were before the referendum, which was his only point - that they were not timely. That doesn't mean they are out of context, because they were discussing adopting the EEA model in the event of leaving the EU.

 

[SNova]

No he didn't. He said they were before the referendum, which was his only point - that they were not timely. That doesn't mean they are out of context, because they were discussing adopting the EEA model in the event of leaving the EU.

Did you watch it? They shown the rest of the small clips. They're not arguing for the single market.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Seen that myself on the daily politics, the only problem was from that video done by the lad from open Britain was they were very selective in what they showed, when the Daily politics played the rest of the speeches from those on the open Britain video it came across completely different.

 

[SNova]

Seen that myself on the daily politics, the only problem was from that video done by the lad from open Britain was they were very selective in what they showed, when the Daily politics played the rest of the speeches from those on the open Britain video it came across completely different.

We've got our own one too.

 

[Tubey]

Did you watch it? They shown the rest of the small clips. They're not arguing for the single market.

Yes, and it's nonsense. It's crystal clear what it was overall - singing the praises of the EEA model, long before the referendum. They changed their tune afterwards because they wanted to capitalise on the fear of foreigners and irrational hatred.

As said, it's the politics of the gutter.

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

If we are out the EU free movement from the EU other than visa travel is dead?

Says who?

Switzerland?

Norway?

 

[tsubaki]

There's an arrogance which is mind blowing. We're treating the largest trading bloc in the world like they're children, and they're just looking at us bemused and urging us to get on with committing suicide if we're stupid enough to do it for no apparent reason.

People like Calenda deserve to be treated with a lack of respect, though. He is a minister who has never won an election, working for a PM who hasn't won one (to become or as PM) either, and he has spent his entire career getting rich in the politics / PR / business merry-go-round. The EU is run by and for such people - which is why in his jokey little way he was quite happy to put nearly thirty billion euro of exports (we account for more than 5% of their total) and thousands of other people's jobs at risk, at a time when their unemployment rate is above 12% (and their youth unemployment rate nearer 40%).

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Did you watch it? They shown the rest of the small clips. They're not arguing for the single market.

I watched the Daily Politics (I was a remainer) and the open Britain video was very selective in what they shown, and wasn't representative of what was actually said when you listen to the rest of the speeches.

 

[SNova]

Yes, and it's nonsense. It's crystal clear what it was overall - singing the praises of the EEA model, long before the referendum. They changed their tune afterwards because they wanted to capitalise on the fear of foreigners and irrational hatred.

As said, it's the politics of the gutter.

Irrational hatred? All people want is control over their borders. You're in the minority.