Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Bruce Wayne]

We are leaving the EU if the agree to let us have access without ties or even tariffs then fine as when we put trariffs on them we will be well in pocket as I stated they export more goods to us!
no agreement to keep any polictical union fine that's what OUT means!

So you're saying that all the things we buy from the EU will now be more expensive? Who is the 'we' you refer to that this step will make wealthier?

 

[joey_macmo]

Liberalism is losing everywhere lately. Such a good thing for this planet. Liberalism does not work, same as socialism or communism. Bigger state, higher taxes, bigger regulation, that is a way to failure, to lower growth, to bigger corupation. Rich people are only going to move out their business out of the country or tax it elsewhere. That is America today, that is EU. Liberalism also awards people who fail too much - too big unemployment insurance, welfare and other giveaway money. Liberalism environmental policy is an another thing that undermines economy and people too. Liberalism also brings these unexpected things we see. We have Brexit just because of EU. It is EU's failure, and the problem of its non-working liberalism policy. Better to get out of it for Britain sooner than later. You can only guess which countries in the world have economies with the lowest growth. EU countries. So slow, so inefficient and stupid policies. And it is not only EU, it is the majority of governments in Europe. These liberals there are like totalitarians. They only want to control everything and everyone. I know it very well as a citizen of a country that suffered more than 40 years under communism and now many of these ex-communist are coming back here as "liberals". Just search for names like Andrej Babis or Robert Fico...

The fastest growing economy in the world is......

And it's government is....

 

[Joey66]

So you're saying that all the things we buy from the EU will now be more expensive? Who is the 'we' you refer to that this step will make wealthier?

Say they impose tarrifs for us to deal inside the single market ala no ties then we reverse the tarrifs on them we are quids in as they need us more than we need them for trade - I am taking as a OUT voter here no Mandy pamsy crap deal just one that a compromise can be dealt with hence the reason you do not show your hand in any initial negotiations when I was a manager with a large budget buying and selling I got the best deals on the basis of having ammunition in any deal so I could walk away to get the best deal that's good business in any walk of life!
All this is going to take time 43 years of EU legestration to undo to be put into UK law!
Then Parliment can debate this, and have imput until article 50 is signed in 2 years the £may have recovered any way!

 

[joey_macmo]

Interestingly Trumps election will mean we will be in for a very favourable free trade agreement with the states.

He's a protectionist

So please explain

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Say they impose tarrifs for us to deal inside the single market ala no ties then we reverse the tarrifs on them we are quids in as they need us more than we need them for trade - I am taking as a OUT voter here no Mandy pamsy crap deal just one that a compromise can be dealt with hence the reason you do not show your hand in any initial negotiations when I was a manager with a large budget buying and selling I got the best deals on the basis of having ammunition in any deal so I could walk away to get the best deal that's good business in any walk of life!
All this is going to take time 43 years of EU legestration to undo to be put into UK law!
Then Parliment can debate this, and have imput until article 50 is signed in 2 years the £may have recovered any way!

I love you Joe

 

[Barnfred 55]

There's no legal requirement in the US to put business assets into a blind trust whilst President. However all Presidents since Lyndon Johnson have done so with the exception of Obama who has no business assets.

Trump has suggested family members will continue to run his business.

Jack Ryan did

 

[Joey66]

I love you Joe

Have you googled that Brucelol

 

[Barnfred 55]

There's no legal requirement in the US to put business assets into a blind trust whilst President. However all Presidents since Lyndon Johnson have done so with the exception of Obama who has no business assets.

Trump has suggested family members will continue to run his business.

I'm actually surprised at that Esk. I thought it would have been compulsory to have investment portfolio's in a blind trust and no control in the running of any other business asset, of which Trump has numerous. Don't they have such a thing as insider trading over there?. With the information Trump, or any senior official for that matter, will have available to him I just can't see how it cold be otherwise. Even then he would be under intense scrutiny all the time.

 

[The Esk]

I'm actually surprised at that Esk. I thought it would have been compulsory to have investment portfolio's in a blind trust and no control in the running of any other business asset, of which Trump has numerous. Don't they have such a thing as insider trading over there?. With the information Trump, or any senior official for that matter, will have available to him I just can't see how it cold be otherwise. Even then he would be under intense scrutiny all the time.

Yes unbelievably Presidents are exempt from the Ethics in Government Act of 1978, enacted after Watergate.

They do have insider trading laws but they relate to public stocks not private companies. Of greater concern is his overseas interests which might cause foreign policy conflict of interests.

 

[TheBlueGibbon]

Yes unbelievably Presidents are exempt from the Ethics in Government Act of 1978, enacted after Watergate.

They do have insider trading laws but they relate to public stocks not private companies. Of greater concern is his overseas interests which might cause foreign policy conflict of interests.

He's going to invade Scotland isn't he?

 

[The Esk]

He's going to invade Scotland isn't he?

Here's hoping lol

 

[Barnfred 55]

Disagree totally - in a world where the US turns protectionist and we leave our main market for goods and services, what exactly are we facing?

Trump in the White House means more than ever we need the single market or customs union at least..

As usual the two polarised views fighting for airspace. This is what was wrong with the whole Brexit campaign in my view from both sides. Too much lies and scare mongering which ended up with many people, fed up with being told what to do, opting for the protest vote.

In my opinion the truth here, as is so often the case, will lie somewhere in the middle. I suspect there will be an element of protectionism within the US, but they will still need to trade with other countries, and Britain will undoubtedly be towards the head of the queue when it comes to dishing out bipartite agreements.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Yes unbelievably Presidents are exempt from the Ethics in Government Act of 1978, enacted after Watergate.

They do have insider trading laws but they relate to public stocks not private companies. Of greater concern is his overseas interests which might cause foreign policy conflict of interests.

Given the nature of the Watergate scandal you'd have thought the priority would have been to ensure that the President was bound by the act.

Just as well Trump has business interests in the UK then.

 

[Zaschrona]

The fastest growing economy in the world is......

And it's government is....

Ethiopia - communism. If we are talking about developed countries with demogracy, then Monaco - monarchism, nationalism, conservatism. From EU Romania. Thankfully to using EU money transfers and having a government of technocrats... Then Ireland - conservatism...

 

[roydo]

Glad this is all sorted out now.