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When I was a young student Horticulturist in a lesson of propagation,I knew the lecturer well I held my hand up and asked the question - How do you take a cutting of an Asshole Creeper - The class laughed, but I was put down immediately by the lecturer - Joey there's more than enough of them out there without propagating them!
Is that what that post is alluding too?lol

Now before anyone jumps in with big boots.......that is funny..........
 
I have done so on a number of occasions. If you delve far enough back I provided a list of good reasons for Brexit.

Unlike some others I believe we should trigger the leaving process.

I also believe, as you're aware, that on balance we are better off in the EU and now more importantly, I am highly sceptical that we will settle most of the major issues brought about by leaving in a satisfactory manor.


Why the scepticism........
 
Yeah but what exactly do you feel we cannot sort out.......

Irish border and freedom of movement - basically incompatible.

Businesses responsible for employing hundreds of thousands and big money in tax receipts leaving the UK.

The racism that Brexit has unveiled.

The funding issues. The EU funds so much here and we may well be a lot worse off than £350M (false figure anyway) per week in tax receipts.

Britain having to abide by some regulation from Brussels for the purposes of trade but no longer having a say in shaping that regulation.

Science and investment in industry held back by lack of labour and no more EU investment.
 
Irish border and freedom of movement - basically incompatible.

This is a tricky I'll grant you....

Businesses responsible for employing hundreds of thousands and big money in tax receipts leaving the UK.

Businesses will not be moving hundreds of thousands, and tax receipts can always be sorted....

The racism that Brexit has unveiled.

This is more media than actual......if you want to see racism then check out eastern europe, nothing to do with Brexit, everything to do with the EU opening it's Borders.........

The funding issues. The EU funds so much here and we may well be a lot worse off than £350M (false figure anyway) per week in tax receipts.

The EU only funds us from the funds we give to the EU, we are a net contributor......

Britain having to abide by some regulation from Brussels for the purposes of trade but no longer having a say in shaping that regulation.

This works both ways, the CETA agreement for instance insists that the importer has to abide by the standards of the receiving country......

Science and investment in industry held back by lack of labour and no more EU investment.

How will science be held back, we can invite anyone we wish into the country, the investment again is just our money being spent by the Eu......

So out of all these worries its really only about getting Eire and the Northern Irish to sort out how they want to run their border.........
 
Do you remember a few pages ago a certain poster claiming he gets attacked all the time but doesn't say anything out of turn.

Well PG has been called an asshole creeper And a puppy who follows along in the last couple of pages.
 
@Joey66 I'd just like to point out that you liked this post therefore I presume you agreed with the source
‘Brexit will NOT disrupt UK trade’ World Trade Organisation boss plays down fears

THE chief of the World Trade Organisation (WTO), Roberto Azevedo, has said that trade between UK and EU member states will continue during Britain’s ‘smooth’ divorce with the European Union.

The WTO chief has vowed to give the UK a hand for a smooth transition

Mr Azevedo has said that the Brexit vote was not “anti-trade” and gave reassuring words that the UK’s transition out of the EU would be “fast and smooth”.

The WTO leader said: “I will be working hard - I will work very intensely to ensure that this transition is fast and is smooth.

“The less turbulence the better. The global economy today is not in the best shape for us to be introducing turbulence.”

However you countered this post from the exact same source & also liked other posts that disagreed with this.
What Roberto Azevedo is worried about is world trade, not just Brexit but also protectionism because the global economy is 'not in the best of shape'

Brexit won't cause trade 'disruption' WTO boss

What he says about WTO, Brexit and trade between the UK and the EU, is that while negotiations are going, about decoupling the UK from EU/WTO agreements, trade will go on and there will be no disruption 'not automatically'.

In Oslo last week he said,

"Once they (the British) leave, legally the EU schedules no longer applies to them ... The other WTO members arguably could say: 'I don't like it. We should change this, or we should change that'," Roberto Azevedo told a business seminar in Oslo.

"A lot will depend on the terms of separation in the negotiations between the UK and the EU. That may have a positive impact on how the other WTO members view this or not.

"I don't think the global economy at this point in time can afford the luxury of more turbulence. The less turbulence we have the better. The quicker trade relations are established between the UK, the EU and other WTO members, the better."

Shocks to world trade is high on his agenda and he sees the possibility for disruption in the negotiations between the UK and the EU and that is why he said today, "I will work very intensely to ensure that this transition is fast and is smooth," he said. "The less turbulence the better. The global economy today is not in the best shape for us to be introducing turbulence."

It will be interesting to see if Article 50 exit negotiations will run as 'fast and smoothly' as Roberto Azevedo hopes.

Just another example of you trying to have your cake and eat it.

Ridiculous
 
Brexit in doubt as leaked tapes reveal Theresa May ordering continental breakfast in French........

Leaked tapes of Teresa May ordering a continental breakfast in school-level French mean that Brexit is all but dead in the water.

May was attending an EU summit in Paris, when she requested a “breakfast” consisting of baguettes, cheese and pro-European marmalade, which is low on good cholesterol and essential grease.

“Du pain et du fromage pour moi, s’il vous plait,” said May in a blatant snub to her proud English
roots.

“Aussi, les croissants et la buerre. Et maintenant garcon,” she added, as if that were somehow natural.

May was then filmed breaking a croissant apart at its seams with considerable dexterity, suggesting she has no intention of triggering Article 50.

Political analyst, Simon Williams, said, “It’s either no Brexit or a Brexit as soft as the stinking cheese she used to garnish her croissant.”

The outrageous footage suggests May would be more at home discussing Jean-Paul Sartre in a smoke-filled café on the Champs Elysees than looking after the interests of the English working class.

Yesterday, May added insult to injury by visiting an Audi factory in Wolfsburg, where she addressed plant foreman, Gerhard Fotze, in German.

“Guten Tag,” she said, betraying the fifty-two percent who voted to leave.

“Wie geht’s Ihnen?”
 
In other news:

"Science suppliers are raising their prices in the UK to adjust to the steep drop in the value of the pound following the vote to leave the EU.

On Monday US life sciences firm Thermo Fisher Scientific, which sells reagents, told customers it is increasing prices by about 5 per cent from 1 November.

The firm's trading is denominated in US dollars, so sterling's 17 per cent devaluation against the US currency since the Brexit vote in June means that UK prices must inevitably rise.

Scientists are beginning to feel the effects. “In my research I do a lot of molecular biology and biochemistry, for which I need a substantial amount of reagents, plastic ware, enzymes and other wet lab supplies,” said Anne Osterrieder, lecturer in biology and science communication at Oxford Brookes University. “A price increase means our research budgets won't go as far now.”

Paula Salgado, lecturer in macromolecular crystallography at Newcastle University, said the increase on Fisher products translates to roughly an extra £1,000 for her lab.

“That will mean we'll be able to afford fewer items than before. To give you an estimate, we get approximately £15,000 - £20,000 a year for consumables in my current grant. Over the past two years, I spent nearly that much on Fisher products, so this price increase will have a clear effect,” she said.

Finding a replacement supplier for such specialised products is not an option, Salgado added.

Similarly, reagent supplier Newmarket Scientific has informed customers its prices are going up by 10 per cent.

“I run a core facility. For me this simply means I have to raise prices for our customers,” said Daniel Swan, head of platforms and pipelines at the Earlham Institute, a supplier of genomics services.

If the pound regains value, Newmarket Scientific promises to drop prices again. But in the meantime, Swan said the company will push up the cost of sequencing genomes.

“It impacts all our sequencing platforms and our library preparation and sequencing reagents costs – we have a large installation of Illumina platforms and when they adjust their prices this is going to be financially very significant for us,” Swan said. US sequencer manufacturer Illumina did not respond to a question about its price plans.

Higher prices could depress demand for UK scientific services

“Customers may choose to send their samples elsewhere if we become uncompetitive in the global supplier space. [And] when this price hike hits capital equipment purchases, it is going to be particularly painful on some of our more high-end £500,000-plus platforms,” said Swan.

The price rises also mean researchers will have to scale back studies. “They will have to do fewer experiments or [reduce] samples, potentially negating critical aspects of experimental design [and] statistical power,” Swan said.

As a junior lecturer working towards securing the first big grant, Osterrieder is on a tight budget. She relies heavily on advanced microscopy facilities and a few specialist software licenses, so any future price hikes for these services will hamper her career progression.

“I will need to sit down and go through my past and future spending to figure out where price increases are likely to occur, and which ones would affect my research plans the most,” she said.

The pound’s slump has translated into price increases in other services used by researchers. Earlier this week, Microsoft announced its Azure cloud services will go up 22 per cent from January next year, while its Office software will go up by 13 per cent."
 
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