Current Affairs EU In or Out

[neil999]

You have evaded the question.

No

 

[JammyP]

You have evaded the question.

Little help here:

 

[Joey66]

Thank you mate, the whole point I was alluding to was that those bodies you mention are self serving thank you very much clods. Do any of them go near the citizens and explain where all the money is going, I do not think so. So back to the point originally raised what is accountabilty because those people I referred to seem to have little or no idea what the word means or quietly ignore it. It demonstrates to me that there is probably huge waste in the EU and corruption. I am not saying the UK is any better but that does not alter my view on the subject of the EU.

comparing the with us the meps get paid more and look at the top guys the brandy sodden leaders of the EU - this guy is that sloshed when talking to Meps he is sloshed
Jean-Claude Juncker, 61, President of the European Commission
Salary: £245,629 plus a residential allowance of £36,844 and a monthly expense allowance of £1,135. Pension of £52,500 for life from age 65.
VFM hey?????????????????????????????????????

 

[Toffeelover]

No

Well why have certain countries erected barriers, or would you wish me to name them to assist you in your geography?

 

[peteblue]

I quoted somebody else Pete, that's usually a clue as to who each person is speaking to.

In your previous posts on the subject you talked about how the deal will be a "dogs dinner" now that Wallonia is agreeing with you and using their Veto accordingly you think it's a bad thing.

You also said "if you don't like TTIP then tough, if you want a vote against it then vote to leave the EU" this has also been disproven.

Thanks once again for the hint though.

I'll give you that Joey.....the quote I mean......

 

[joey_macmo]

Sorry mate, I'm struggling to understand.....when I said "if you don't like TTIP then tough, if you want a vote against it then vote to leave the EU" because at the time the EU wanted to do the TTIP, in fact they still do but the USA can't be bothered anymore and I think both Presidential candidates have said they will just cancel it, because it's not worth doing without the UK.......

You're using the veto of Ceta as a stick to beat the EU with.

Yet you implied that there was no way to stop TTIP going through and used it as a stick to beat the EU with.

With your experience in billion dollar trade deals I thought you'd be able to connect the dots.

 

[Toffeelover]

Little help here:

That does not clarify the issue of the erection of barriers, suggest you familiarise yourself with earlier posts to get up to speed.

 

[peteblue]

You'll be back and I'll still be here to ask whether this is an example of EU accountability.

I have no idea how it is crass either.

Don't worry, someone will explain.....

 

[Toffeelover]

comparing the with us the meps get paid more and look at the top guys the brandy sodden leaders of the EU - this guy is that sloshed when talking to Meps he is sloshed
Jean-Claude Juncker, 61, President of the European Commission
Salary: £245,629 plus a residential allowance of £36,844 and a monthly expense allowance of £1,135. Pension of £52,500 for life from age 65.
VFM hey?????????????????????????????????????

Wonder how much his lump sum will be? Explains also why the Kinnocks are essentially millionaires now, socialism works --- for some.

Remember the socialist catch phrase is " do as I say not do as I do"

 

[neil999]

Well why have certain countries erected barriers, or would you wish me to name them to assist you in your geography?

You don't understand what free movement of people is within the eu

 

[The Esk]

Thank you mate, the whole point I was alluding to was that those bodies you mention are self serving thank you very much clods. Do any of them go near the citizens and explain where all the money is going, I do not think so. So back to the point originally raised what is accountabilty because those people I referred to seem to have little or no idea what the word means or quietly ignore it. It demonstrates to me that there is probably huge waste in the EU and corruption. I am not saying the UK is any better but that does not alter my view on the subject of the EU.

Actually I'd say the framework for the EU budget is much more accountable than for example our own Government.

The Council (made of all 28 states) requires 100% agreement before the budget can be agreed, and has to fit in a 7 year cycle as determined in the multi annual financial framework which again requires unanimous approval of all 28 States.

 

[Joey66]

Little help here:

Try adopting those EU laws under Phillip green ask the BHS employees no protection there then!

 

[joey_macmo]

Well why have certain countries erected barriers, or would you wish me to name them to assist you in your geography?

Far from me to interject but didn't Neil say that refugees don't come under the freedom of movement?

In which case wouldn't that explain the erection of barriers during the migrant crisis perfectly?

 

[Joey66]

Actually I'd say the framework for the EU budget is much more accountable than for example our own Government.

The Council (made of all 28 states) requires 100% agreement before the budget can be agreed, and has to fit in a 7 year cycle as determined in the multi annual financial framework which again requires unanimous approval of all 28 States.

How many times tdo the they get their audit accounts signed off then if they are so ace??

 

[Toffeelover]

You don't understand what free movement of people is within the eu

Agian asnwer the question why have countries erected barriers, it is simple just answer it.