orchard
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I mentioned it to pete a couple of days ago...anything to try to justify an unknown end. Rule brittania.
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peteblue
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Do you not think that comparing the TTIP deal with America and the CETA agreement with Canada as perhaps disingenuous.......especially as you know almost nothing about either.......
peteblue
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I think all sides have been doing this....the remain supporters are still manufacturing scare stories as we speak.......
peteblue
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Sweden has warned that it would be a serious mistake to chastise Britain for voting to leave the EU, appealing instead for an amicable settlement to minimise damage for both sides.
“The softer the Brexit, the better. We’re an open country and we are in favour of free trade, and we want to see a solution that is as beneficial as possible for everybody,” said Magdalena Andersson, the Swedish finance minister.
The olive branch from Stockholm reflects the shared view of the Nordic bloc that there is nothing to be gained from a fractious divorce between Britain and the EU.
“I think our basic instincts are the same. We’ve heard some voices from the Continent that now is the time to punish the British, whereas our instinct instead is that this is the new situation and we have to make the best of it. We have to see what is good for jobs and growth,” she told the Daily Telegraph on a trip to London.
The EU itself needs to tread with care since there are large eurosceptic movements in Sweden, Denmark, and Finland. A hard-line stance that ignored the concerns of the Scandinavian bloc would risk opening fresh rifts within an already badly-fractured Union.
The comments came as Swedish companies start to feel the chilling effect of the referendum campaign in Britain and the sharp fall in sterling. Data released this week show that Swedish exports to Britain are in free-fall, with a drop of 19pc over the period from January to July compared to the same period a year ago.......
“The softer the Brexit, the better. We’re an open country and we are in favour of free trade, and we want to see a solution that is as beneficial as possible for everybody,” said Magdalena Andersson, the Swedish finance minister.
The olive branch from Stockholm reflects the shared view of the Nordic bloc that there is nothing to be gained from a fractious divorce between Britain and the EU.
“I think our basic instincts are the same. We’ve heard some voices from the Continent that now is the time to punish the British, whereas our instinct instead is that this is the new situation and we have to make the best of it. We have to see what is good for jobs and growth,” she told the Daily Telegraph on a trip to London.
The EU itself needs to tread with care since there are large eurosceptic movements in Sweden, Denmark, and Finland. A hard-line stance that ignored the concerns of the Scandinavian bloc would risk opening fresh rifts within an already badly-fractured Union.
The comments came as Swedish companies start to feel the chilling effect of the referendum campaign in Britain and the sharp fall in sterling. Data released this week show that Swedish exports to Britain are in free-fall, with a drop of 19pc over the period from January to July compared to the same period a year ago.......
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No mate, I don't.
I think the point stands. The EU can't be this massive force stopping countries from doing as they please and also be a disgrace for having a veto system in place at same time.
orchard
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It doesn't make either right, does it?
peteblue
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You are, of course, right........
peteblue
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So how would you describe the EU in this respect......Bearing in mind that 28 countries plus Canada have been stopped from doing a deal......
orchard
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Conservative? Stable? More secure? More inclusive?
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I would describe it as 'accountable to national and regional parliaments' as that accountability is exactly what is holding up CETA.
peteblue
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The EU and Canada thought they had a deal, 28 countries thought they had a deal, how is the rejection of that deal 'Stable'. How is it 'more secure' if every country can be held back by some rogue regional vote. Why is it 'more inclusive' if the wishes of 2 million override the wishes of 500 million plus Another 35 million Canadians. If by conservative you mean nothing ever happens then I agree with you.......
Yes, if the elected government breaks the law in some way. For instance, the major utility companies in Germany are suing the Germany state for forcing the closure of the countries nuclear plants after the Fukashima incident. Given the huge sums involved in building nuclear stations, you shouldn't be able to force their closure without paying compensation to those who had invested in their construction, especially given some of the plants had been given a lifetime extension a few years earlier. That's not a power grab as much as holding the state to the same standards as everyone else.
Six parliaments in Belgium and one with a small population holds up a 7 year deal up , and you call that accountability?
I call it a great reason to justify leaving a over topped brerocrats of the EU, and believe it or not that was one of the big reasons OUT won!
peteblue
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It's not accountable to Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish regional parliaments, nor any separate regions within France, Germany etc, so why does Belgium which is a much smaller country effectively get multiple vetoes ?......
I don't think anyone wants a hard Brexit on here either, but as free movement of people is one of the founding principles of the EU, it's hard to see how a softer split can be achieved given the apparent hard stance of May et al on that prnciple.
I don't think the EU can possibly allow Britain to have free market access and not free movement. It just won't happen.
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