Current Affairs EU In or Out

[orchard]

The first site almost caused an earthquake in Lytham st Annes!

I know, in fact lots of quakes there mate. The annecdotal evidence from the US and Australia is horrific. Groundwater pollution, air pollution, massive hidden costs to public infrastructure, 'quakes, landslides over massive areas, holes just opening up/sinkholes.

 

[orchard]

I think Denmark's 140pc,and the Scandinavian countries may be exporting too...

Doesn't Portugal run entirely from sustainable energy for days at a time?

We might not have their sun - although we do have a lot more space to collect it in - but we certainly have the wind and the waves.

 

[Joey66]

Doesn't Portugal run entirely from sustainable energy for days at a time?

We might not have their sun - although we do have a lot more space to collect it in - but we certainly have the wind and the waves.

yes it does not snow there either!

 

[dandydan]

Not that this is the fracking thread, but anything that means putting more greenhouse gas into the air when there are plenty of alternatives is riddiculous.

The alternative is nuclear or blackouts.
http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk

 

[orchard]

May holding Brexit talks with devolved nations
Michael Russell, Scotland's Brexit minister, said it was "pretty poor" that it had taken four months since June's referendum for talks to be held.
It would be "very strange" if special arrangements were made for the financial sector but not for the people in Scotland who backed Remain, he added.

 

[orchard]

The alternative is nuclear or blackouts.
http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk

-or an alien invasion, right?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

May holding Brexit talks with devolved nations
Michael Russell, Scotland's Brexit minister, said it was "pretty poor" that it had taken four months since June's referendum for talks to be held.
It would be "very strange" if special arrangements were made for the financial sector but not for the people in Scotland who backed Remain, he added.

I wonder if Walloonia, sorry, Scotland will eventually scupper Brexit?

 

[Joey66]

May holding Brexit talks with devolved nations
Michael Russell, Scotland's Brexit minister, said it was "pretty poor" that it had taken four months since June's referendum for talks to be held.
It would be "very strange" if special arrangements were made for the financial sector but not for the people in Scotland who backed Remain, he added.

Lets have a referendum in the UK to see if we still want Scotland to be in the UK as the Barnett formula is fleecing us!
It can work both ways!
they rely on 65%of imports from the UK Sturgeon is bluffing may will rightly ignore her as the SNP are not even wanted in the EU a population of 5 million there is no appetite to leave us its just her bluffing imo!

 

[orchard]

I wonder if Walloonia, sorry, Scotland will eventually scupper Brexit?

I tried to draw the logical parralels for Pete last night, but he stuck his head back into his nostalgic '50's sand again.
Guardian:
In a report published on Monday, the Institute for Government said unless all four leaders agree on the key elements of the UK’s negotiating position before theprime minister triggers article 50, formally starting the Brexit process, the result could be “a serious breakdown in relations between the four governments and nations of the UK”.

 

[orchard]

-are you just going to keep going along these lines until it's just yourself, Pete, and May in an independent state?

Lets have a referendum in the UK to see if we still want Scotland to be in the UK as the Barnett formula is fleecing us!
It can work both ways!
they rely on 65%of imports from the UK Sturgeon is bluffing may will rightly ignore her as the SNP are not even wanted in the EU a population of 5 million there is no appetite to leave us its just her bluffing imo!

 

[Armel]

I'm not sure any more. The thing is he has a lot to lose. The parti socialiste is under pressure because they are in danger of losing their (long held for decades) dominant position to the communist party. If he gives in they will lose even more credibility. He manoeuvred himself in a position where he can only lose. Possibly some money. Or endanger the dominant position in the next election.

I seems I was correct, they won't sign.

http://www.lesoir.be/1350551/articl.../comite-concertation-belgique-dit-non-au-ceta

 

[Joey66]

I wonder if Walloonia, sorry, Scotland will eventually scupper Brexit?

Not really Bruce wishful thinking I hopelol

 

[Joey66]

-are you just going to keep going along these lines until it's just yourself, Pete, and May in an independent state?

No the uK voted out never at any stage were 5 million people was it ever stated they could hold that vote to ransom?
It was not a separate vote also a % voted to leave in scotkland if it was 90 % they may have a case imo!
No I want us to trade all over the world with the other 139 countries in the WTO!
also still trade with the EU after negotiations!

 

[orchard]

Differentiate between the dichotomy of the in/out debate, and how it is actually going to be effected please Joey. Okay ja?

No the uK voted out never at any stage were 5 million people was it ever stated they could hold that vote to ransom?
It was not a separate vote also a % voted to leave in scotkland if it was 90 % they may have a case imo!
No I want us to trade all over the world with the other 160 countries in the WTO!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Not really Bruce wishful thinking I hopelol

To be fair though Joe, the Scots did vote IN. Democracy and all that.