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From a Telegraph op ed:

It’s easy enough to see what’s gone wrong. Brexit, I’m sorry to say, forms at least some part of it. It was a massive distraction, during which almost everything else was left to wither on the vine. The original sin was to think of the European Union as the main constraint on a more prosperous, higher growth economy.

Borrowing from General Erich Ludendorff’s depiction of Germany’s alliance with the Austro-Hungarian empire during the First World War as like “being shackled to a corpse”, Leavers routinely blamed the EU for the UK’s multitude of problems.

Now unshackled, these challenges have turned out to be just the same if not worse.

What might be said in favour of Brexit is that it has at least left the country with no one else to blame but ourselves. What about Treasury orthodoxy and Remainer elites? Oh please.

The underlying cause of much of Britain’s predicament has long been obvious; it is the absence of pragmatically minded long-term thinking that transcends the electoral cycle, and the painful policy prescription it invariably necessitates.

Think even the nutters are starting to realise the problem with Britain, is of Britain’s making.
 

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So even if you take a large house, it's nowhere near £2,500 a year. I wonder who is behind this anonymous Twitter account?

Jumping into this late, and I might be missing something. But doesn’t that show that for a large house it’s over £2500

£113 pcm for leccy + £113 for gas. £226 X 12 = £2712.
 
Jumping into this late, and I might be missing something. But doesn’t that show that for a large house it’s over £2500

£113 pcm for leccy + £113 for gas. £226 X 12 = £2712.
Oh ffs. You take issue with "my" take on it, but not the anonymous Twitter troll whose stats are "way" off and have debunked by the fact finding services?
 
Oh ffs. You take issue with "my" take on it, but not the anonymous Twitter troll whose stats are "way" off and have debunked by the fact finding services?
Well from what I’ve seen the Twitter thing has already been debunked by full fact, as a misrepresentation, so no need to hammer that point home, but your comment also jumped out to me as wrong as the £2500 average cost for the Uk seemed about right to me given what I pay every month.
 
Another Brexit benefit:

What's not to love...


 
Well from what I’ve seen the Twitter thing has already been debunked by full fact, as a misrepresentation, so no need to hammer that point home, but your comment also jumped out to me as wrong as the £2500 average cost for the Uk seemed about right to me given what I pay every month.
And yet the £2,500 figure was clearly significantly above the "average" cost for the UK based on the figures I provided. You picked out the figure for a 4 bed household, which is pretty far from the norm.
 
And yet the £2,500 figure was clearly significantly above the "average" cost for the UK based on the figures I provided. You picked out the figure for a 4 bed household, which is pretty far from the norm.

Yeah, but I wasnt talking about the Uk average, I was speaking to your comment that “even if you take a large house, it’s nowhere near”, which was incorrect.

I’m not defending the tweet, it was also clearly incorrect.
 
Fwiw, we live in 100 sq m bungalow, 2 bedrooms , new build.
Energy is all electric.
We pay edf 170€ pm for 10 months.
That's 1700€ p.a.
Or about 1450£
Which country are you based in? Euro zone obviously!

By UK standards that's not unreasonable, especially if cooking and heating are electric. Only lived somewhere with electric heaters once and it was one expensive winter.
 
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