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    Votes: 325 32.1%

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See, this situation is what is wrong with politics in general, and I say this irrrspective of party allegiance - when Gordon Brown took over without being elected, Theresa May was among those claiming "we need a general election".

Now she has taken over, "there's no need for an election".

They all need to grow up. Overgrown schoolchildren the lot of them. As @Bruce Wayne said the other day, total farce in U.K. politics.
Scrap political parties, make every MP independent and allow any MP to nominate themselves as PM. Winner forms a government based on who they feel is most competent.

I genuinely feel political parties are the biggest problem with our system. They ruin everything.
 
Scrap political parties, make every MP independent and allow any MP to nominate themselves as PM. Winner forms a government based on who they feel is most competent.

I genuinely feel political parties are the biggest problem with our system. They ruin everything.
The more you examine it, the more absurd the parties are.

The childish bickering gets my goat.


These are supposed to be grown ups! Running the nation!!!
 
Am I getting linked to the wrong story? I get a story about LSE basically calling the foreign office liars yet people have quoted you talking about accepting election results!?!?
Nah sorry, I just made a general point about the unelected comment above the link.
 
Groucho is technically right though a referendum result could be legally challenged as the vote is only a guidence, but under the parliament debate agreeing 6-1 for a referendum in parliaments vote in favour of the ballot paper etc
It would be senseless waste of time to take it to any courts threats have been made, but personally I can,t see it happening!
I would have excepted the result to remain by now - 3 months on not just on this thread the media wrangle goes on!
I am sure we will leave the EU the public on a high turn out won to leave!
From a legal stand point sure they could ignore the referendum but they could technically do the same for election results if they choose to go down that path. The government must know that ignoring any type of election/referendum type result would be extremely dangerous to a country's legitimacy as a democracy. I and millions of others would take to the streets in protest if that was to happen. I can take losing any election/referendum result but I refuse to let the government take away my basic rights.Once the government take one right away why not a second or a third and so on. It's an extremely slippery slope that would be the quickest way to an extremist government I can think of. To those asking for a second referendum: You should all think very carefully about what your asking for and what you'll gain compared to what you'll lose is worth it.
 
Glad those deplorable comments were removed. I hoped I was missing a point, but it was clearly a typical 'leave' voter showing their bigoted nature. @peteblue you are on the same side as this person...motivations aside.

Might wanna look at who supports your perceived ideology friend...you have some scary bedfellows.
I have no idea what op said that your responding to but I'm guessing that they were pretty vile comments to warrant being removed. But I just felt I had to comment on the hypocrisy of your post. The op was a "typical leave voter" was he? So your quite happy to use one poster on here as an example of a typical leave voter rather then anyone of the half a dozen or more posters who have all debated without any problems. Your quite happy to describe over 17million people having a bigoted nature? Out of interest are you familiar with the TUSC party? Because I think they for one they would be horrified at your description of them. I appreciate you acknowledge at least the different motivations but it's still an outrageous smear to imply that such views are typical of over 17million voter's. As for having what you call "scary bedfellows" it was no better in the remain camp. Those who voted remain sided with David Cameron a man who has savagely cut resource after resource in this country and effectively attacked the weakest in our society with the disabled. You also if you remain sided with Tony Blair, a war criminal to anyone with half a brain and a thoroughly vile human being. When so many people vote it's obvious that your going to get a few idiots but they're on both sides of the of the vote and failure to acknowledge it only damages your credibility.
 
From a legal stand point sure they could ignore the referendum but they could technically do the same for election results if they choose to go down that path. The government must know that ignoring any type of election/referendum type result would be extremely dangerous to a country's legitimacy as a democracy. I and millions of others would take to the streets in protest if that was to happen. I can take losing any election/referendum result but I refuse to let the government take away my basic rights.Once the government take one right away why not a second or a third and so on. It's an extremely slippery slope that would be the quickest way to an extremist government I can think of. To those asking for a second referendum: You should all think very carefully about what your asking for and what you'll gain compared to what you'll lose is worth it.

Again I don't see anyone on here calling for a second referendum.


Also how can a government ignore a general election? I'm aware the monarch can do such a thing but unsure as to how the government can.
 
From a legal stand point sure they could ignore the referendum but they could technically do the same for election results if they choose to go down that path. The government must know that ignoring any type of election/referendum type result would be extremely dangerous to a country's legitimacy as a democracy. I and millions of others would take to the streets in protest if that was to happen. I can take losing any election/referendum result but I refuse to let the government take away my basic rights.Once the government take one right away why not a second or a third and so on. It's an extremely slippery slope that would be the quickest way to an extremist government I can think of. To those asking for a second referendum: You should all think very carefully about what your asking for and what you'll gain compared to what you'll lose is worth it.
No one has suggested another vote, merely stated a fact - the referendum was advisory. So that's a straw man argument.

In fact far from ignoring the result, May has seemingly decided that immigration was the key driver for the result, and is prepared to sacrifice the economy in order to deliver the will of the people.
 
Again I don't see anyone on here calling for a second referendum.


Also how can a government ignore a general election? I'm aware the monarch can do such a thing but unsure as to how the government can.
I was responding to Joey66 who mentioned the legal stand point of having a second referendum. Hence the reason I didn't call anyone on here out about asking for one and made a wider statement to anyone who wanted a second referendum. The reason I mentioned election's is because once you start tampering with our rights and freedoms you go down a slippery slope imo. If they (the government) can ignore/take away one right why not another?
 
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I was responding to Joey66 who mentioned the legal stand point of having a second referendum. Hence the reason I didn't call anyone on here out about asking for one and made a wider statement to anyone who wanted a second referendum. The reason I mentioned election's is because once you start tampering with our rights and freedoms you go down a slippery slope imo. If they can ignore/take away one right why not another?

Joey was responding to a post that had nothing to do with having a second a referendum that was my point. It was about LSE showing the foreign office up.

Again I ask how a government can ignore a general election?
 
I was responding to Joey66 who mentioned the legal stand point of having a second referendum. Hence the reason I didn't call anyone on here out about asking for one and made a wider statement to anyone who wanted a second referendum. The reason I mentioned election's is because once you start tampering with our rights and freedoms you go down a slippery slope imo. If they can ignore/take away one right why not another?
Heralding democracy off the back of a poll where campaigns were full of blatant lies and would have failed advertising code rules is somewhat ironic

Changing the subject slightly, do you think all of those 17m people would have voted the way they did if it was made clear that we'd definitely lose access to the single market?
 
Joey was responding to a post that had nothing to do with having a second a referendum that was my point. It was about LSE showing the foreign office up.

Again I ask how a government can ignore a general election?
I'm not sure they can currently. My point was that once the government start ignoring results such as the referendum, it opens the possibility of further government interference when us plebs make the wrong decision.
 
Heralding democracy off the back of a poll where campaigns were full of blatant lies and would have failed advertising code rules is somewhat ironic

Changing the subject slightly, do you think all of those 17m people would have voted the way they did if it was made clear that we'd definitely lose access to the single market?

To be honest I don't think all of those people would have voted to leave if they knew the cost of their holiday would go up 25% never mind lose access to the single market.
 
Glad those deplorable comments were removed. I hoped I was missing a point, but it was clearly a typical 'leave' voter showing their bigoted nature. @peteblue you are on the same side as this person...motivations aside.

Might wanna look at who supports your perceived ideology friend...you have some scary bedfellows.

As I haven't seen the comments you refer to I can't really comment. If you are insinuating that a persons views of whatever nature are automatically transferred or associated to a completely different person who just happened to vote one way or the other then that is just silly.......
 
I'm not sure they can currently. My point was that once the government start ignoring results such as the referendum, it opens the possibility of further government interference when us plebs make the wrong decision.

You said they could that's all.

It doesn't open things up we are talking about legal scenarios.
 
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