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[JimmyJeffers]

Can we get back to hating on @peteblue ffs!

 

[tsubaki]

All worthy positions indeed.

I was curious to see if @tsubaki was using a particular definition here from a particular political or academic perspective. Quite often an awful sounding phrase refers to something quite specific. I don't get the impression they're a poster to be snobby about someone's job.

I wasn't being, but some people decided to read into what was said something that was not said.

I very much apologise for a spelling mistake. It wont be be my last one.

If you choose to sneer at socially useless jobs from your morally upright employment status, well done you. You may have a dislike of the working practices of Amazon, Uber and Just Eat, but to tarnish the workers as socially useless is ignorant and insulting.

Roydo - that is not what I said, at all.

 

[Prevenger17]

Can we get back to hating on @peteblue ffs!

No, we must eat our own now

 

[roydo]

I wasn't being, but some people decided to read into what was said something that was not said.



Roydo - that is not what I said, at all.

Well what does "Socially useless jobs" mean, if it isnt that the jobs are socially useless?

 

[peteblue]

Well what does "Socially useless jobs" mean, if it isnt that the jobs are socially useless?

There appears to be some work regarding this, but the term ‘socially useless job’, which I personally think is an offensive term, is apparently applied when the individual actually doing the job feels that it adds no value to society. It is for the individual doing the role to determine their own valuation of the job, not someone else. Therefore if you and other groups determine your own job socially useful, it is, and it has nothing to do with anybody else……

 

[tsubaki]

Well what does "Socially useless jobs" mean, if it isnt that the jobs are socially useless?

Jobs, roydo. Not the workers.

Those firms damage other companies, our politics, society as a whole and often their own workforce.

When there is a pressure on labour supply, where we have food rotting in the fields because there aren't the people to pick it, when the NHS is sinking because of staff shortages, when the military is probably below a safe level of staffing and when there are loads of other gaps across most other sectors of the economy, for society to allow a firm like Amazon to put more pressure on labour supply so it can further screw people over is wrong.

 

[roydo]

There appears to be some work regarding this, but the term ‘socially useless job’, which I personally think is an offensive term, is apparently applied when the individual actually doing the job feels that it adds no value to society. It is for the individual doing the role to determine their own valuation of the job, not someone else. Therefore if you and other groups determine your own job socially useful, it is, and it has nothing to do with anybody else……

Nice try.

 

[roydo]

Jobs, roydo. Not the workers.

Those firms damage other companies, our politics, society as a whole and often their own workforce.

When there is a pressure on labour supply, where we have food rotting in the fields because there aren't the people to pick it, when the NHS is sinking because of staff shortages, when the military is probably below a safe level of staffing and when there are loads of other gaps across most other sectors of the economy, for society to allow a firm like Amazon to put more pressure on labour supply so it can further screw people over is wrong.

Sorry mate, I must be thick, because I cant disconnect a socially useless job from the person doing it being socially useless.

And I am not sure you can blame Amazon for not enough crop pickers, NHS staff nor soldiers.

My job "interview" to be a delivery driver was "can you drive and can you work in the UK." Pretty sure the bar is a tad higher for the NHS and the military.

Crop pickers, (and NHS tbf) is as much Brexit as anything else.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Jobs, roydo. Not the workers.

Those firms damage other companies, our politics, society as a whole and often their own workforce.

When there is a pressure on labour supply, where we have food rotting in the fields because there aren't the people to pick it, when the NHS is sinking because of staff shortages, when the military is probably below a safe level of staffing and when there are loads of other gaps across most other sectors of the economy, for society to allow a firm like Amazon to put more pressure on labour supply so it can further screw people over is wrong.

Everton need a striker but I'm not sure it's as straightforward as taking someone from behind the wheel of their Uber car and training them up.

 

[Prevenger17]

Everton need a striker but I'm not sure it's as straightforward as taking someone from behind the wheel of their Uber car and training them up.

Indeed, I think the idea of redeploying delivery drivers into medical consultant roles somehow manages to insult the practitioners of both these important jobs

 

[roydo]

Indeed, I think the idea of redeploying delivery drivers into medical consultant roles somehow manages to insult the practitioners of both these important jobs

Actually, about 6 weeks into Nikkis stay in Hospital, the nursing staff taught me to adjust the oxygen levels if she needed more/less.

To be honest, bleeding a radiator was more difficult. Probably broke about 4 million rulez.

 

[peteblue]

Can we get back to hating on @peteblue ffs!

No, we must eat our own now

Exactly, I’m the good guy here…..

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Nice try.

Probably one of those made up stories, but Kennedy was supposedly touring a NASA facility in the 60s and asked a janitor what he was doing, to which the guy responded that he was putting a man on the moon. It's often trotted out whenever someone suggests you can find meaning in anything (man).

 

[Jebus_lives]

Sorry mate, I must be thick, because I cant disconnect a socially useless job from the person doing it being socially useless.

And I am not sure you can blame Amazon for not enough crop pickers, NHS staff nor soldiers.

My job "interview" to be a delivery driver was "can you drive and can you work in the UK." Pretty sure the bar is a tad higher for the NHS and the military.

Crop pickers, (and NHS tbf) is as much Brexit as anything else.

That's the new National Occupational Standard for a Paramedic

 

[Jebus_lives]

Actually, about 6 weeks into Nikkis stay in Hospital, the nursing staff taught me to adjust the oxygen levels if she needed more/less.

To be honest, bleeding a radiator was more difficult. Probably broke about 4 million rulez.

Are you saying that nurses do a job proportionate to their level of responsibility and clinical expertise?!?

This thread has got very Tory!!!!