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[roydo]

Are you saying that nurses do a job proportionate to their level of responsibility and clinical expertise?!?

This thread has got very Tory!!!!

You learn all sorts being a long term visitor to an ICU/Resp ward.

Tea, the drink, is not good in recovery for example. When an unconscious/sedated patient soils themselves, they can tell by taking their temp from their ear.

And the majority of ICU staff are non Brit.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Everton need a striker but I'm not sure it's as straightforward as taking someone from behind the wheel of their Uber car and training them up.

Got the perfect Uber driver though

 

[Jebus_lives]

You learn all sorts being a long term visitor to an ICU/Resp ward.

Tea, the drink, is not good in recovery for example. When an unconscious/sedated patient soils themselves, they can tell by taking their temp from their ear.

And the majority of ICU staff are non Brit.

I remember when my mate was in hospital long term, he was changing his drip himself. Just easier than to trouble the nurses.

 

[orchard]

Jobs, roydo. Not the workers.

Those firms damage other companies, our politics, society as a whole and often their own workforce.

When there is a pressure on labour supply, where we have food rotting in the fields because there aren't the people to pick it, when the NHS is sinking because of staff shortages, when the military is probably below a safe level of staffing and when there are loads of other gaps across most other sectors of the economy, for society to allow a firm like Amazon to put more pressure on labour supply so it can further screw people over is wrong.

Surely people picking monocultural veg/fruit for a farming baron is as "socially useless" as Amazon?

 

[tsubaki]

Indeed, I think the idea of redeploying delivery drivers into medical consultant roles somehow manages to insult the practitioners of both these important jobs

there are plenty of jobs the delivery driver could do though, indeed many of them did formerly do them

 

[Bruce Wayne]

there are plenty of jobs the delivery driver could do though, indeed many of them did formerly do them

Most drivers left permanent employment to start driving with Uber and were seemingly attracted to the platform by the flexibility it offers. Moreover, while most Uber drivers report low incomes relative to other London workers, about half at the same time say that their incomes increased after partnering with Uber, which presumably reflects that many drivers transitioned out of lowpaid blue collar and service jobs.

From Oxford - https://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/downloads/academic/201809_Frey_Berger_UBER.pdf

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Everton need a striker but I'm not sure it's as straightforward as taking someone from behind the wheel of their Uber car and training them up.

I'd be prepared to see the club give it a go. What harm could it do?

 

[roydo]

there are plenty of jobs the delivery driver could do though, indeed many of them did formerly do them

Have you spoken to all of them?

Like most jobs, to an outsider, they look dead easy. Believe me, it isnt. It isnt rocket science, granted, but to plenty of folk, a delivery driver can be their window to the world.

BTW. The one job I did do that I would/did consider to be an absolute waste of everyones time and money paid me £100k. I felt more fulfilled and useful delivering shopping and FIFA games to a double amputee, (legs), or boxes of flowers to pensioners in their housing association bungalows.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Have you spoken to all of them?

Like most jobs, to an outsider, they look dead easy. Believe me, it isnt. It isnt rocket science, granted, but to plenty of folk, a delivery driver can be their window to the world.

BTW. The one job I did do that I would/did consider to be an absolute waste of everyones time and money paid me £100k. I felt more fulfilled and useful delivering shopping and FIFA games to a double amputee, (legs), or boxes of flowers to pensioners in their housing association bungalows.

I always quite fancied doing delivery work. Lived in a rural area and the lads all looked like they were loving life. Currently working in corporate finance and can say that I consider my job to have extremely low social value. In fact sometimes the opposite.
Whatever social value we place on a job is subjective I guess. I know what Tsubaki is getting at.

 

[roydo]

I always quite fancied doing delivery work. Lived in a rural area and the lads all looked like they were loving life. Currently working in corporate finance and can say that I consider my job to have extremely low social value. In fact sometimes the opposite.
Whatever social value we place on a job is subjective I guess. I know what Tsubaki is getting at.

I know what he is getting at. But unlike him, he has been piss poor putting his point across. And doubling down does him no favours, imo.

Delivery is weird. You either take to it, or not. Like anything I guess. If you take to it, it can be the best way to earn a decent wedge. If you dont, it can be the worst way to earn knackers. They lad who took over my postcodes was pulling in circa £60000 during lock down. And those ordering habits tend to hang around.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I know what he is getting at. But unlike him, he has been piss poor putting his point across. And doubling down does him no favours, imo.

Delivery is weird. You either take to it, or not. Like anything I guess. If you take to it, it can be the best way to earn a decent wedge. If you dont, it can be the worst way to earn knackers. They lad who took over my postcodes was pulling in circa £60000 during lock down. And those ordering habits tend to hang around.

So you need a driver's licence and UK residence as your interview to do this but a doctor in training will earn about £30000

 

[roydo]

So you need a driver's licence and UK residence as your interview to do this but a doctor in training will earn about £30000

Its volume mate. Not a reflection on one job or another. Nearly £200 day at peak was the norm in lock down. 6 days a week, 50 weeks a years. Gets close to £60000 gross

 

[Jebus_lives]

Its volume mate. Not a reflection on one job or another. Nearly £200 day at peak was the norm in lock down. 6 days a week, 50 weeks a years. Gets close to £60000 gross

I'm not making any comment on the validity of the job or not. Just a salary comparison and a reflection on why people might be leaving clinical roles in the NHS.

 

[roydo]

I'm not making any comment on the validity of the job or not. Just a salary comparison and a reflection on why people might be leaving clinical roles in the NHS.

I know. But if/when folk get stuff from another courier, it might be £20 a day. Tis the world I guess.

I think if you have a inclination to be in the medical profession, salary, whilst important, aint the driver. I know if I had my time again, I would deffo go into nursing.

 

[tsubaki]

I know what he is getting at. But unlike him, he has been piss poor putting his point across. And doubling down does him no favours, imo.

Delivery is weird. You either take to it, or not. Like anything I guess. If you take to it, it can be the best way to earn a decent wedge. If you dont, it can be the worst way to earn knackers. They lad who took over my postcodes was pulling in circa £60000 during lock down. And those ordering habits tend to hang around.

er - as I have repeatedly said, I am not talking about delivery drivers