Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Foot Long Hot Dog said:
That's merely semantics Pete.

Single market access will require freedom of movement that has been made abundantly clear from the off, she's seemingly shut the door on it, based on HER perception of what drove the vote.
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No it's not, use of the correct words is incredibly important.......

No one knows what single Market access will require. The whole European political landscape and personnel may change before we leave.........people are just spouting off at the moment, but when deals are done pragmatism comes to the fore......
 
peteblue said:
I wouldn't pre-judge the negotiations. It's amazing how things can change........
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I hope you're right Pete.

My fear is that she's painted herself into a corner before it even starts!

Personally I'd have liked to have seen her kick the invoking of article 50 into the long grass. Choosing to wait and see the outcome of the French and German elections next year before jumping in. As I think it's highly likely that immigration will feature heavily in both. Caps on total net migration might have been possible in the medium term.

Choosing to go in Q1 means that there's no way the EU can be seen to buckle on freedom of movement before those elections imo.
 
Prevenger17 said:
Mate, I'm on your side of the fence, but your posting has been borderline demented.

And I respect that.


But this thread needs to stay alive, ease up on that pedal and focus on making your points, you got this.
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Nah, not borderline demented, Prev. Just like-for-like responses.

Unfortunately, the 'remain' side of the house continue to peddle the same old accusations, and the same old monetary drivel. The BBC News at One has just commented on the dip in the £ at midnight. Two possibilities: 'Fat finger', as it is called, which means someone on the Asian market hit the wrong key on their keypad! Or, and get this, the computers which are pre-programmed to instantly respond to what is happening in the money market reacted to a slight movement in the market, triggering the pre-programmed computers to take certain actions which resulted in the £ nose-diving for a short time before picking up. This is what the Beeb said, not me! Our financial scenario being dictated by computer programmes...
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
I hope you're right Pete.

My fear is that she's painted herself into a corner before it even starts!

Personally I'd have liked to have seen her kick the invoking of article 50 into the long grass. Choosing to wait and see the outcome of the French and German elections next year before jumping in. As I think it's highly likely that immigration will feature heavily in both. Caps on total net migration might have been possible in the medium term.

Choosing to go in Q1 means that there's no way the EU can be seen to buckle on freedom of movement before those elections imo.
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They all have. Merkel is already in trouble with the migration, she has been trying to convince German Industry that this free movement of people is important and they will have all politely agreed. But when push comes to shove the German car industry workers and other industries, who work in Germany, will not be too interested in this dogmatic 'freedom' if it interfere's with their exports. Hollande is a dead man walking and won't be around, the current EU 'Presidents' will have changed and they will know that May will be in power for a decade at least. It'll become clearer in a year or so......
 
Joey66 said:
Funny that on QT Labours Chuka sounded no where near like Corbyn -He sounded like a sensible politician who got he most applause yet never had the guts to stand for leadership!
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I think it was more a case of him realising that Corbyn would win whoever stood against him, so he pulled out of the election early. I think he's just biding his time. When Corbyn moves on from the leadership, I think that will be the time when he strikes for it.
 
Old Blue 2 said:
Nah, not borderline demented, Prev. Just like-for-like responses.

Unfortunately, the 'remain' side of the house continue to peddle the same old accusations, and the same old monetary drivel. The BBC News at One has just commented on the dip in the £ at midnight. Two possibilities: 'Fat finger', as it is called, which means someone on the Asian market hit the wrong key on their keypad! Or, and get this, the computers which are pre-programmed to instantly respond to what is happening in the money market reacted to a slight movement in the market, triggering the pre-programmed computers to take certain actions which resulted in the £ nose-diving for a short time before picking up. This is what the Beeb said, not me! Our financial scenario being dictated by computer programmes...
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Today's potential computer glitch is a red herring in the discussion about the performance of sterling since June 23rd

Notably post May's speech this week, that wasn't a 'glitch' it was a market reaction to her words.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
The more I see of her the more I think she's little more than a stooge for the far right

Her meaningless soundbites and platitudes are already wearing thin.
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You'll be calling her Hitler next. It's not far right to want the control of your national borders to be in the hands of your national parliament.
 
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