Current Affairs EU In or Out

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    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

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Same posters no mention of a world Covid outbreak worldwide - USA have the same problems to a lesser degree .......
If you sell your main assets - your family silver etc & suffer with a feul shortage - you have to wonder why

North sea oil plus gas made a 20 billion profit last year -a winfall tax on those industries would cover the feul rise -

20 percent of feul tax on every bill would help too....

As for interest rises today I paid 11 percent on my first mortgage.......

This be are bad worldwide they need to get better blaming Brexit is imo way off the mark -

Just look how long the EU took to get the vaccination programme started too much red tape .,..by the EU ..

As you know, I have never blamed Brexit as THE reason why stuff goes wonky.

If I was a fisherman I might mind.

But I am still struggling with the upside.
 
Same posters no mention of a world Covid outbreak worldwide - USA have the same problems to a lesser degree .......
If you sell your main assets - your family silver etc & suffer with a feul shortage - you have to wonder why

North sea oil plus gas made a 20 billion profit last year -a winfall tax on those industries would cover the feul rise -

20 percent of feul tax on every bill would help too....

As for interest rises today I paid 11 percent on my first mortgage.......

This be are bad worldwide they need to get better blaming Brexit is imo way off the mark -

Just look how long the EU took to get the vaccination programme started too much red tape .,..by the EU ..


 


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Same posters no mention of a world Covid outbreak worldwide - USA have the same problems to a lesser degree .......
If you sell your main assets - your family silver etc & suffer with a feul shortage - you have to wonder why

North sea oil plus gas made a 20 billion profit last year -a winfall tax on those industries would cover the feul rise -

20 percent of feul tax on every bill would help too....

As for interest rises today I paid 11 percent on my first mortgage.......

This be are bad worldwide they need to get better blaming Brexit is imo way off the mark -

Just look how long the EU took to get the vaccination programme started too much red tape .,..by the EU ..
There aren't fuel shortages here in the states.
We do have supply chain issues. A lot of this is due to poor Covid planning. A generation of union busting and failing to invest in infrastructure has come home to roost at the first major crisis. In the UK you have similar issues but you compounded the problem by self imposing massive obstacles related to Brexit.

I'm not sure how fossil fuel production levels in the north sea or the tax imposed on them has anything to do with Brexit. I would be very cautious about mining rights in the north sea and Scotland looking to hold another indy ref thanks to Brexit.

I'm not sure hiking fuel costs with a 20% tax makes sense but I may not be picking up what you're saying correctly.

When you paid 11% interest on your first mortgage, what % of your income was spent on your mortgage? Again not sure what this has to do with Brexit. Incremental interest rate hikes are necessary to curb inflation as global markets fully open again.

Yes the vaccination verification process was slower in the EU, getting all 27 countries on the same page can be tricky. This is a known downside to the block. Every member assesses the pros and cons. It also strikes me that the UK, like with the Euro, could have negotiated more independence on issues like this.
Basically, you threw the baby out with the bath water.
 
There aren't fuel shortages here in the states.
We do have supply chain issues. A lot of this is due to poor Covid planning. A generation of union busting and failing to invest in infrastructure has come home to roost at the first major crisis. In the UK you have similar issues but you compounded the problem by self imposing massive obstacles related to Brexit.

I'm not sure how fossil fuel production levels in the north sea or the tax imposed on them has anything to do with Brexit. I would be very cautious about mining rights in the north sea and Scotland looking to hold another indy ref thanks to Brexit.

I'm not sure hiking fuel costs with a 20% tax makes sense but I may not be picking up what you're saying correctly.

When you paid 11% interest on your first mortgage, what % of your income was spent on your mortgage? Again not sure what this has to do with Brexit. Incremental interest rate hikes are necessary to curb inflation as global markets fully open again.

Yes the vaccination verification process was slower in the EU, getting all 27 countries on the same page can be tricky. This is a known downside to the block. Every member assesses the pros and cons. It also strikes me that the UK, like with the Euro, could have negotiated more independence on issues like this.
Basically, you threw the baby out with the bath water.
This thread is not for me, if the USA is wise it should join the EU ......in time we will be £18 billion better off even the £5 billion rebate the EU dictated how we spent it - democracy made us leave the EU

In the UK we live in a democratic country - Boris will be removed democraticly quite rightly too.....I predicted he will go before April ...,.

I don't even vote anymore .....after the remainers tried to change a democratic vote ......
 
This thread is not for me, if the USA is wise it should join the EU ......in time we will be £18 billion better off even the £5 billion rebate the EU dictated how we spent it - democracy made us leave the EU

In the UK we live in a democratic country - Boris will be removed democraticly quite rightly too.....I predicted he will go before April ...,.

I don't even vote anymore .....after the remainers tried to change a democratic vote ......
wow ok.
Yes, it was a democratic vote to leave the EU but I'd have serious questions about the legality and origin of funding for the leave campaign. This somewhat clouded the democratic process.
Do you get a vote to remove Boris in April? or is it down to his Party? Not quite sure how that works in your democratic country.
If you're making the conscious decision not to vote, you void an opinion on political issues in my book. Sorry to be so blunt.
 
This thread is not for me, if the USA is wise it should join the EU ......in time we will be £18 billion better off even the £5 billion rebate the EU dictated how we spent it - democracy made us leave the EU

In the UK we live in a democratic country - Boris will be removed democraticly quite rightly too.....I predicted he will go before April ...,.

I don't even vote anymore .....after the remainers tried to change a democratic vote ......
Excellent contribution Joe.

So far since you popped back in; you completely missed the point of the quote that drew you back in, embarrassed yourself by challenging the prediction about "lorry parks", made some other easily disprovable claims before finally reverting to non sequiturs rambling.
 
This somewhat clouded the democratic process.

this leaflet was sent to every UK household, and funded by the UK taxpayer.

https://assets.publishing.service.g...ean-union-is-the-best-decision-for-the-uk.pdf


and here are some findings about the mailing from the university of Sheffield

http://speri.dept.shef.ac.uk/2018/0...-pro-remain-leaflet-shaped-the-eu-referendum/

results show that exposure to the government’s leaflet lead to a lower probability of voting to leave the EU. The findings indicate that exposed voters were, on average, 3 percentage points less likely to vote leave relative to their matched control observations; that is, non-exposed individuals with similar observable characteristics as the exposed individuals. The effect is primarily driven by those individuals who read the leaflet and had a low degree of exposure to other referendum information.

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