Pete although I agree , along with passport colours , it must resonate with some or why would Johnson lie ? Unless he can’t help himself.
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So Johnson said a key benefit of Brexit is something no one cares about?
peteblue
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These are symbols and flags, which unless they actually offend are more important to politicians than us mere folk. Look at France where Macron changed the colour of the blue in the flag, it got a mention but no one really cared, but replacing the French flag with the EU one on the Arc de Triomphe caused a major outcry. For me, I wanted the words European Union removed from my passport and not particularly a colour change (although I naturally prefer blue over red), and I really couldn’t care what’s written on a pint glass. Whereas things that are maybe more important, such as the rules of how we operate (vaccination approvals anyone) and the ability to adjust financial and taxation implements (VAT, remember the tampon tax) and our ability to stand back from the United States of Europe (I see the most senior EU foreign affairs panjandrum is visiting Ukraine’s borders) perhaps mean a bit more….
Vaccination approval was also something that Johnson lied about
Vaccine approval isn’t quicker because of Brexit – Full Fact
The MHRA could have given the Pfizer vaccine the same emergency approval when the UK was in the EU.
fullfact.org
As, indeed, was the tampon tax
We don’t need to leave the EU to scrap the tampon tax - InFacts
Johnson wrongly gives the tampon tax as a reason for Brexit. EU wants to change VAT regime to allow zero rate for sanitary products.
I'm a bit worried that you're unable to determine truth from lies Pete.
peteblue
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Vaccination approval was also something that Johnson lied about
Vaccine approval isn’t quicker because of Brexit – Full Fact
The MHRA could have given the Pfizer vaccine the same emergency approval when the UK was in the EU.
As, indeed, was the tampon tax
We don’t need to leave the EU to scrap the tampon tax - InFacts
Johnson wrongly gives the tampon tax as a reason for Brexit. EU wants to change VAT regime to allow zero rate for sanitary products.infacts.org
I'm a bit worried that you're unable to determine truth from lies Pete.
Bruce, you know very well that had we still been in the EU we would have waited for the European Ok and the purchase of vaccines via the EU, both of which were delayed. You also know that in respect of the tampon tax the article you quote says it’s still been delayed by the EU. This is and remains the problem with the EU, everything takes too long. Getting what was 28 country heads to agree on anything was nigh on impossible, everything took an age. Brexit has been the best thing to happen to the EU because now they see a near neighbour beginning to get its act in gear and they are having to do the same. Imagine owning some form of shop or business, with 28 (now 27) equal partners and all having one vote, you would get nothing done. Meanwhile the guy next door has decided which way to take his business and is getting on with it…..
We may well have gone along with the EU on vaccines, but the point is we wouldn't have had to, so Johnson and Hancock lied about it. You're right though in that from a political perspective, Brexit has been great for the EU as our example has quelled any thoughts any of the remaining nations had of wanting to leave.
NilSatisOptimum
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Say what, you mean they're coming from somewhere else.
Man alive, they are stupidly thick...
Man alive, they are stupidly thick...
NilSatisOptimum
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NME to the point!
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summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
now say there's a street with 28 shops on it, they all used different rubbish removal services, different utility providers, kept different hours and accepted different forms of payment. This led to arguments among the shop owners who eventually resorted to burning each others shops down.
After one particularly disastrous episode, all the shop keepers got together and decided that if they invest in the street as a whole and share resources, becoming equally dependent on and supportive of each other, the likelihood of burning each others shops down would be greatly reduced.
Over the following years, the street became an economic power house, agreement wasn't easy but the rewards were worth it and accommodations were made for shop keepers who wanted different outcomes.
Now, one of these shops wasn't happy with the power make up on the street. It wanted sole control of it's business and it heard of a shop in a different street in a different city that had done it years ago and everything was great. So they put the option of leaving to their employees. They reminded them that they used to be the biggest, most important shop on the street and how it's not fair that they can no longer dictate where their employees come from.
By leaving the street, they could trade with other shops on other streets and decide themselves where their employees came from.
Then they told their employees that the street as a whole was responsible for their own mismanagement and if they decided to leave, they'd all get higher wages. So they decided to leave.
Now there are 27 shops on the street all working together to make the street a success and one shop that's busy trying to do business with shops 4 streets over. Their employees never got the raise and the mismanagement has continued. Most of their time is now spent complaining about the increase in costs for rubbish removal and utilities.
Oh, and a few departments in the shop will likely form their own business and rejoin the street.
It's a clunky analogy but I had fun writing it!
roydo
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Thought it was pretty good.
Reminded me of mine, years ago it seems, about a market stall paying £20 a day to be in the big market, with all those customers, but decided to save the £20 and set up his stall in a yard on his own. Cos he sold loads of stuff in the big market, and surely all those customers would make an effort to find his yard. Wouldnt they?
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Therein lies one of the main issues with brexit. Many Asian communities would have been targeted with promises that immigration would increase with the rest of the world. Yet other people (mainly racists) thought the whole charade would prevent further immigration. You can't have it both ways yet people voted for what they thought would happen, or told would happen (depending on who was telling them). Total madness. Masses of people conned by greedy self serving charlatans like Mogg et al.
Staggering stupidity. Any idiot with more than two functioning brain cells could've told you the price of a trade deal with the likes of India and China would be visas, visas and more visas.
peteblue
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Excellent, except that U.K. unemployment is better than Germany, twice as good as France and nearly four times better than Spain. U.K. gdp is growing faster than most of Europe and we are not having an argument with Russia over Ukraine….
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