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I am all in favour of migration, just not mass migration nor uncontrolled immigration. Unless the likes of Russia, Canada or Australia with their humongous land mass wanted huge areas populated then ‘mass’ migration provides more problems than solutions.....

We have never had uncontrolled nor mass immigration though, but if we have/had, it was down to the UK Govt. Its one of the biggest fabrications that framed the Leave campaign.
 
I believe Paris is more densely populated than London, so probably, yes. I'm sure there are parts of Seoul and Tokyo that are considerably more densely populated. For instance, Nakano has 20,000 people per square km. The benefits are probably in the eye of the beholder, but given how many people live in these areas there is clearly an attraction. I love my borough and all that it provides.

And that’s great, but in the same way that you control the number living in your home, someone has to be responsible for the number living in our country.....
 
And that’s great, but in the same way that you control the number living in your home, someone has to be responsible for the number living in our country.....
Tony Blair...

"Under Blair’s Labour government, Britain’s economic immigration policy went from a highly restrictive approach to one of the most expansive in Europe, as I examined in new research. Work permit criteria were relaxed, the number of international students was doubled, the government expanded existing low and high-skilled migrant worker schemes and launched new ones and, from 2005, initiated a new points-based immigration system. Overshadowing these important reforms was the 2004 decision to allow citizens of eight countries that were about to join the EU the immediate right to work in Britain. This decision alone resulted in one of the largest migration flows in Britain’s peacetime history.
Put into historical context, Labour’s reforms were an unprecedented policy reversal. With 2.5m foreign-born workers added to the population since 1997 and net migration averaging 200,000 per year between 1997 and 2010 – five times higher than under the previous administration government of 1990-1996 – immigration under Labour quite literally changed the face of Britain."
 
All I'm asking for is the grounds on which they're banned from using it. All you've provided thus far is a study from 1999 that says it's probably carcinogenic but we don't have enough data to say for sure, nor how harmful it is. If that was the strength of our evidence-driven policy making then all of the vaccines would be permanently banned because they carry a risk of blood clots.
Pedantic and boring me with irrelevant vaccine references, however, AZ is not recommended for under 30s, and having known somebody dead with said clot its of little comfort to their family and friends that's its rare, but hey, I'm alright jack...

Anyway, welcome to the Not very United Kingdom Mr Coates...

 
Pedantic and boring me with irrelevant vaccine references.

Anyway, welcome to the Not very United Kingdom Mr Coates...


At the risk of repeating myself, what does "considerably lower costs" mean? Presumably for them to say that they know how much a kg of beef in the UK costs to produce and a kg of beef in Australia, so what are those figures?
 
And the price of British beef for comparison.


Works out at around AUD$7.20 per kg, so British farmers currently enjoy a cost advantage over Australian farmers of around AUD$0.80 per kg even before any costs associated with shipping beef from Australia to Britain are considered. But yeah, we'll be flooded with dirt cheap beef because of, erm, something or other.
 
To add insult to injury, the Australian farming minister is so bullish at their ability to flog their carcinogenic offal overseas that the price will reach $10 per kg this year, which would make it 40% more expensive than plucky old British beef. At this rate, the only person that will be able to afford to buy our newly imported bovine will be Carrie Symonds.
 
Oh, would you look at this


Australian beef is actually the most expensive in the world. Fancy that.
You did not read the article. Reckon you are 4th Reich vegetarian or vegan type, just seen an opportunity bash meat eaters.
 
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