Maybe so, but you'd expect someone to produce a clear link between hormone injection and human health. Greenpeace or anyone with more skin in the animal welfare game.
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tsubaki
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They do, though I wasn’t talking about that so much (butchery and preparation of meat in unsanitary conditions are more to blame).
orchard
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Don't get hung up on Aus/NZ, they have been chosen first because we have a lot in common, so won't annoy the gammons when precedent's set, but others will soon follow.
Regarding food poisoning and intensive practices, it's not only medical records that one should look at, just look at how consumers have had to change their practices to try to avoid it- in the US they have to cook pork to buggery to eliminate an endemic worm, how measures need to be taken in the EU (and elsewhere) to avoid salmonella and how we have to take anti f&m measures because the government chose not to police import quality.
Don't get hung up on Aus/NZ, they have been chosen first because we have a lot in common, so won't annoy the gammons when precedent's set, but others will soon follow.
Regarding food poisoning and intensive practices, it's not only medical records that one should look at, just look at how consumers have had to change their practices to try to avoid it- in the US they have to cook pork to buggery to eliminate an endemic worm, how measures need to be taken in the EU (and elsewhere) to avoid salmonella and how we have to take anti f&m measures because the government chose not to police import quality.
NilSatisOptimum
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Sets a precedent for other countries, its not going to be the only trade forthcoming,
To be honest, I hope we move to a world before too long where meat consumption is hugely reduced. It's not great from a health perspective (however it's produced) and the environmental impact is huge.
EU citizens are being denied entry to the UK – what are the visa rules for visitors? - Free Movement
Travel to the UK is opening back up, but not as we previously knew it. The news has been replete with examples of EU citizens being denied entry at UK
www.freemovement.org.uk
NilSatisOptimum
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What worries me about Australian beef is grown with added hormones, banned by us when in the EU?
What is hormone treated beef?
Anyway, UK farming was warned by Mr Off on his trotters Cameron, and as Uk farming voted for being out of the EU, they have reaped what they have sown.
David Cameron says UK farmers would suffer outside EU
David Cameron warns that British agriculture would suffer if the UK votes to leave the EU, with farmers facing up to £330m in tariffs on beef and lamb exports.
www.bbc.co.uk
Farmer support for Brexit as strong as ever, FW poll reveals - Farmers Weekly
Support for Brexit remains as strong as ever among British farmers, with few who voted to leave the European Union 18 months ago saying they would vote
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This is what I just don't get.What worries me about Australian beef is grown with added hormones, banned by us when in the EU?
What is hormone treated beef?
www.soilassociation.org
So 22 years ago there was some research that suggested there might be a harmful effect from hormone-treated beef, but there wasn't enough data to quantify the risk, and yet in the intervening 22 years not one single study has attempted to get enough data to actually quantify the risk? That's madness. It's like finding the Covid vaccines have a risk of causing blood clots, and then just leaving it at that and forgetting about it.
NilSatisOptimum
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Oh yeh lets keep testing its still causing cancer of course UK farmers cant use the hormone but just as long its not you being tested on... Smoking alcohol next, its free market time everyone...
What on earth are you on about?
The very article you yourself shared said that one of the six hormones used in US beef production (is it also used in Australian beef production? You don't say and neither does the Soil Association) might carry a health risk but they don't know how big a risk that is because of insufficient data.
So yes, get sufficient data and test it properly.
I can't believe people are even arguing about this. It's so weird.
For instance the World Health Organisation already states that red meat has carcinogenic properties that may lead to cancer. That's not Lionel Messi, hormone juiced up cows, that's all cows. So presumably as you're okay with cows that are free to frolic in great British fields and make guest appearances in the Archers, you're happy with "some" cancer risk from eating red meat.
How much does hormone-treatment of cows raise that risk? Who on earth bloody knows?
How much does hormone-treatment of cows raise that risk? Who on earth bloody knows?
NilSatisOptimum
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Our farmers don't because they are banned from using it and on "bloody" the assumption we were happy to prevent this “profit making” making drug being used by our own farmers since 1989, it hardly seams the right thing now to allow imports from farmers who use it. Not a level "bloody" playing field is it?For instance the World Health Organisation already states that red meat has carcinogenic properties that may lead to cancer. That's not Lionel Messi, hormone juiced up cows, that's all cows. So presumably as you're okay with cows that are free to frolic in great British fields and make guest appearances in the Archers, you're happy with "some" cancer risk from eating red meat.
How much does hormone-treatment of cows raise that risk? Who on earth bloody knows?
orchard
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You keep saying that, but in reality, only specific practices are detrimental, some beneficial, just like the other areas of farming, unfortunately, the West has gone almost all-out on an intensive pollutant concentrating disease ridden monocultural disaster.
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The University of Exeter has just released a study into why the people of Cornwall ( @Barnfred 55 ) voted to leave. It's quite depressing that nearly 80% say there's too much immigration, despite not experiencing any of that themselves, while hardly any refer to the huge amounts of money the region got from the EU, which is almost certainly going to effect them.
The deep story of Leave voters affective assemblages: implications for political decentralisation in the UK - British Politics
How do British Pluralist traditions need to be re-imagined to address the issues at the heart of the Brexit vote? This paper will use qualitative research about why Britain voted for Brexit to examine this question. The paper interrogates the question that we require a more decentred local...link.springer.com
"Many people who took part in the study wanted a strong affective economy, good public services and accessible jobs. They seem to have linked a Leave vote with expressing concerns about the association between immigration and the economy. These issues don't appear to be grounded in people's daily experiences."
Think it's about time you accepted that most people in this country don't want mass immigration
Just because most people don’t want it doesn’t mean you have to agree with it or consider it to not have xenophobic roots.
It’s more a question of why people don’t want ‘mass’ immigration
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