Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

Cant argue with their manufacturing capability, just a pity the EU messed Up their own orders......

The orders aren’t being fulfilled mate, 75% of AZ hasn’t been delivered to the EU, but exported to other countries including the UK - we clarified this last night, both on the UK signing contracts later then the EU and both contracts having best efforts. Let’s not go around in circles.

UK de facto have an export ban on vaccines, not officially, but they have exported 0 vaccines, they are using their manufacturing for themselves and importing as above 80% of their vaccine programme from the EU.

If your fine with the UK using their manufacturing to protect their own citizens first, you can’t have a problem if the EU decided to the same. 0%vs 89%, give and take wise isn’t a very fair equation, or morally but probably more importantly importantly politically is very divisive and short sighted.
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No matter how you try to dress it up, the U.K. does not have an export ban.....we have no police or bureaucrats checking factory outputs. That’s a European thing.....

 

[Neiler]

The orders aren’t being fulfilled mate, 75% of AZ hasn’t been delivered to the EU, but exported to other countries including the UK - we clarified this last night, both on the UK signing contracts later then the EU and both contracts having best efforts. Let’s not go around in circles.

UK de facto have an export ban on vaccines, not officially, but they have exported 0 vaccines, they are using their manufacturing for themselves and importing as above 80% of their vaccine programme from the EU.

If your fine with the UK using their manufacturing to protect their own citizens first, you can’t have a problem if the EU decided to the same. 0%vs 89%, give and take wise isn’t a very fair equation, or morally but probably more importantly importantly politically is very divisive and short sighted.

No matter how you try to dress it up, the U.K. does not have an export ban.....we have no police or bureaucrats checking factory outputs. That’s a European thing.....
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Sure thing mate! What I’m hearing is however strong your argument is and compelling the evidence, I’m never going to accept it. Or as you say dress it up.

You have no police or bureaucrats checking exports, someone should tell the lads queuing for days in trucks.

Incidentally the EU paid for the development of the two UK plants for the production of AZ and both are named in the EU contract as sites were AZ would be supplied, UK vaccine exports 0.

 

[peteblue]

No matter how you try to dress it up, the U.K. does not have an export ban.....we have no police or bureaucrats checking factory outputs. That’s a European thing.....

Sure thing mate!

You have no police or bureaucrats checking exports, someone should tell the lads queuing for days in trucks.
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We are not going to agree on this are we. You have your view, and you know mine. I hope that everything works out well for you all, but I’m still glad we left the EU ......

 

[Neiler]

Sure thing mate!

You have no police or bureaucrats checking exports, someone should tell the lads queuing for days in trucks.

We are not going to agree on this are we. You have your view, and you know mine. I hope that everything works out well for you all, but I’m still glad we left the EU ......
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That’s fair mate, we won’t agree, all good, no one happier then me to see the UK get on, nationalism isn’t the issue for me, infact it’s counter vaccine nationalism. The UK rollout has been amazing, the supply chain for me is morally corrupt when you break it down. But I’m happy lives are being saved somewhere regardless and at least nothing is going to waste.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

BBC finds an vertebrae from its long list back bone!

 

[davids]

Cant argue with that. But it begs the obvious follow up; say, come the next election, Labour committed to re-entering the EU if they won, who would you vote for?

Think the EU would find that one amusing.

 

[PaulPowersTash]

Think the EU would find that one amusing.

They would have us back in a flash.
They need the money and it would be the biggest
'I told you so' in modern history.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Incidentally, I spoke with another startup yesterday (Dutch this time). They were talking about the markets they were looking at. Belgium, obviously, Germany, the Nordics. They looked sheepishly at me, and said "sorry, you know how things are."

 

[davids]

They would have us back in a flash.
They need the money and it would be the biggest
'I told you so' in modern history.

Oh if it were so simple,bit like the Tory claim a deal would be done over lunch,the EU has moved quickly to do in-house trading deals to replace the UK, then there is the question of the deals Labour would need to do with Scotland and Wales to get elected.

 

[PaulPowersTash]

Oh if it were so simple,bit like the Tory claim a deal would be done over lunch,the EU has moved quickly to do in-house trading deals to replace the UK, then there is the question of the deals Labour would need to do with Scotland and Wales to get elected.

I agree with what you say for sure.
I was talking about the EU having us back.
It will never happen, as one of the conditions would be
that we have to have the Euro as our currency and the
electorate are just not going to vote for that.

 

[davids]

I agree with what you say for sure.
I was talking about the EU having us back.
It will never happen, as one of the conditions would be
that we have to have the Euro as our currency and the
electorate are just not going to vote for that.

Double edge sword for the EU,the loss of trade versus the loss of face.

 

[summerisle]

Following on from 'British wind' we have this stunner :

 

[Blues Harp]

Following on from 'British wind' we have this stunner :

Ha ha fecking idiots.
Goes down well with gammon!

 

[peteblue]

I see that 4.6 million people from the EU have so far been given permission to remain in the UK. Apparently there were only 3.1 million EU citizens in the U.K. before Brexit....

 

[Kurt.]

I see that 4.6 million people from the EU have so far been given permission to remain in the UK. Apparently there were only 3.1 million EU citizens in the U.K. before Brexit....

Thankfully a positive at last