Current Affairs EU In or Out

[BlueDraka]

The point I’m making is that, you are talking about the outcomes but what would you assess that outcome?

how do you know the outcome is superior to the one where we would have stayed in the EU?

You won't until a lot further down the line. Things in the short time will happen,. Like more paperwork. I can go in when I do paperwork. At first I may not do it right but the more I do it then it becomes easier.
Brexiteers (although most people now like myself just wanted us to get with it)
May well be right in all assumptions.
Better people than me will have all data as I say in 10 years, and deal in real facts to decide whether are better off had we stayed in the EU.
Me I hope we make a success of it.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Exactly

Worked out the difference between a measurement of time and outcomes yet?

 

[Jebus_lives]

Worked out the difference between a measurement of time and outcomes yet?

You won't until a lot further down the line. Things in the short time will happen,. Like more paperwork. I can go in when I do paperwork. At first I may not do it right but the more I do it then it becomes easier.
Brexiteers (although most people now like myself just wanted us to get with it)
May well be right in all assumptions.
Better people than me will have all data as I say in 10 years, and deal in real facts to decide whether are better off had we stayed in the EU.
Me I hope we make a success of it.

Nope...

 

[BlueDraka]

It wasn't intended to condescend.

But he's been asking you repeatedly (example):

Him: How will we know if the harvest has been better this year - do we count the number of apples, the quality or the size?

You: 'we need to give it 5-6 years then we'll know'

Him: 'Yes but how do we know if it's succeeded?'

You: 'we give it 5-6 years'.

Him: 'then what do we measure it by?'

You: '5-6 years. We wait and see'

Do you see the problem here*

*Or should we wait and see?

Like I have asked. Can you provide real facts that we will be worse off in 5 or 10 years.

It's not a hard question if you have all the facts!

 

[BlueDraka]

Worked out the difference between a measurement of time and outcomes yet?

Not condescending at all ha

 

[Jebus_lives]

Like I have asked. Can you provide real facts that we will be worse off in 5 or 10 years.

It's not a hard question if you have all the facts!

He's not asking you to provide facts..

He's asking you to define which facts will be used to measure success.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Not condescending at all ha

It's legitimately hard to put it in simpler terms.

 

[BlueDraka]

But that's not actually what Brexiters used to say is it, plane sailing easiest deal ever, the list of lies goes on.

Liars on both sides. The economy would crash,. City of London would collapse it's been a few days into the trade deal

 

[BlueDraka]

He's not asking you to provide facts..

He's asking you to define which facts will be used to measure success.

Still waiting for factual evidence.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Liars on both sides. The economy would crash,. City of London would collapse it's been a few days into the trade deal

An estimate is different from a lie....

 

[Jebus_lives]

Still waiting for factual evidence.

Factual evidence of what? What is the measure?

 

[BlueDraka]

An estimate is different from a lie....

So Cameron and Osbourne said the economy would crash?!!! That was an estimate!

 

[Jebus_lives]

So Cameron and Osbourne said the economy would crash?!!! That was an estimate!

If you can quote to me where they said it and what they were referencing, I'll be able to help you out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BlueDraka]

Factual evidence of what? What is the measure?

Ok. Will the UK be worse off in 10 years time.
Can you provide the facts to say that it will?

 

[mill]

Asylum from what Bruce, the French, the Italians, the Germans or the Dutch. You would have me believe that the EU is heaven on earth with all its beauty and opportunities. So what is it that they seek asylum from ?.....

We have 133k refugees. 0.2% of our population.

Germany over 1m (1.5% of the population).

Putin’s RUSSIA has 450,000 (0.3%)

trump’s USA 800k (0.25%)

we are 14th on the list of EU countries. Behind all of those you mention.

for comparison, Lebanon’s refugees represent 21% of their population. Which is 1.5m.

it’s almost as if we don’t have a problem at all.