Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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When would this doctor that you imagined up have any bearing on mine.
Full disclosure here:

The doctor I made up in my scenario, to illustrate the absurdity of your 'lets wait and see' mantra across every situation, wasn't a real doctor.

Neither, and I can't believe I'm having to explain this, does the imaginary doctor giving you an imaginary diagnosis of an imaginary life threatening illness to an imaginary 99% certainty have any bearing on my non imaginary views on Brexit and the non imaginary estimates of those who have non imaginary expertise in the non imaginary field they are opining on.

You've confused satire with reality.
 
giving considered thought as to the outcome of a situation (using what is often considerable expertise and/or experience in that domain) is being viewed less favourably than giving no such thought (usually by someone with no expertise and/or experience in that domain).


Aye, it's mad but it's the new reality. Project Wait and See and Project Don't Ask Questions are in full swing
 
What does Trump have to do with us @peteblue ?


No idea Bruce. Home Sec deplores Trump actions and left wing newspaper tries to turn it into something else ?....I give in, what does Trump have to do with us ?.....
 
I’m a member of a Facebook group for people who own a certain home draft beer dispenser. They work with special kegs which are imported from the EU.

It's worth being a member for the sheer beauty of the current fume.

Previously you could order a wider range of beer kegs more cheaply than was available in the UK, by going direct to EU outlets. Simples, place order on internet, courier delivers, happy drunken days.

Now the pesky forrens have given UK orders the big swerve and said, “can’t be arsed with all that export paperwork and VAT malarkey monsieur”.

The resulting fume level, as measured on the new (Imperial) Farage - Francois Fume scale, is quickly ramping up through mildly irritated, completely jarred off and approaching boils my piss angry, levels.

This mixture of outrage and stoic Dunkirk spirit is generating various alternative solutions, such as suggestions that everyone start drinking kegs of British brewed, Ye Olde Badger’s Spaff, at room temperature, in protest, rather than chilled Stella. It’s fair to say this option ain’t exactly hitting the spot for most.

The level of disconnect between individuals, who from their expressed views, clearly voted for Brexit, but are now surprised and angered at the practical implications, suggests that the most basic meaning of Brexit (means Brexit) may not have been universally understood and appreciated at the time of the vote.

Perhaps there is now a growing realisation that membership of the EU wasn’t just an abstract ideological arrangement, involving the complete surrender of sovereignty, payment of extortionate membership fees and the dictatorial imposition of rules on banana shapes.

Stella...Stella....dear god almighty. If this is the quality of beer that you drink no wonder you can’t understand Brexit. Have you ever visited the Ale House in here and the Beer revisited thread. Stella ffs......
 
I’m a member of a Facebook group for people who own a certain home draft beer dispenser. They work with special kegs which are imported from the EU.

It's worth being a member for the sheer beauty of the current fume.

Previously you could order a wider range of beer kegs more cheaply than was available in the UK, by going direct to EU outlets. Simples, place order on internet, courier delivers, happy drunken days.

Now the pesky forrens have given UK orders the big swerve and said, “can’t be arsed with all that export paperwork and VAT malarkey monsieur”.

The resulting fume level, as measured on the new (Imperial) Farage - Francois Fume scale, is quickly ramping up through mildly irritated, completely jarred off and approaching boils my piss angry, levels.

This mixture of outrage and stoic Dunkirk spirit is generating various alternative solutions, such as suggestions that everyone start drinking kegs of British brewed, Ye Olde Badger’s Spaff, at room temperature, in protest, rather than chilled Stella. It’s fair to say this option ain’t exactly hitting the spot for most.

The level of disconnect between individuals, who from their expressed views, clearly voted for Brexit, but are now surprised and angered at the practical implications, suggests that the most basic meaning of Brexit (means Brexit) may not have been universally understood and appreciated at the time of the vote.

Perhaps there is now a growing realisation that membership of the EU wasn’t just an abstract ideological arrangement, involving the complete surrender of sovereignty, payment of extortionate membership fees and the dictatorial imposition of rules on banana shapes.
Yeah, I highlighted this a month or so ago mate, maybe longer. It's our government's decision, there's no reason why we couldn't have kept the old system whereby the courier takes an 8quid fee for sticking vat and tariffs on, that is except to favour large importer's and diminish our choice. So much for freely trading with the RoW FFS.

Like @peteblue said, go to Halfords.
 
No idea Bruce. Home Sec deplores Trump actions and left wing newspaper tries to turn it into something else ?....I give in, what does Trump have to do with us ?.....

You are, inadvertently, answering that question right there.

Like I have said, it will sink in. Hopefully not too late.
 
Ok so how will you compare the two outcomes?

What will be your process for deciding whether it was the right decision?
When I see the real hard facts not the estimates,. Not the potential outcomes,. Not the best guesswork etc etc. Probably like I said maybe in 5-10 we will hav the hard facts whether brexit was right or wrong for the country. But definitely not basing it in a trade deal 10 days. That's just my view. If someone has a different view. I'm not going to be little them,. Call them names,. Call them racist,. Uneducated etc
 
Full disclosure here:

The doctor I made up in my scenario, to illustrate the absurdity of your 'lets wait and see' mantra across every situation, wasn't a real doctor.

Neither, and I can't believe I'm having to explain this, does the imaginary doctor giving you an imaginary diagnosis of an imaginary life threatening illness to an imaginary 99% certainty have any bearing on my non imaginary views on Brexit and the non imaginary estimates of those who have non imaginary expertise in the non imaginary field they are opining on.

You've confused satire with reality.
I'm uneducated. I really thought you meant a real doctor. Ha ha. Get a grip
 
When I see the real hard facts not the estimates,. Not the potential outcomes,. Not the best guesswork etc etc. Probably like I said maybe in 5-10 we will hav the hard facts whether brexit was right or wrong for the country. But definitely not basing it in a trade deal 10 days. That's just my view. If someone has a different view. I'm not going to be little them,. Call them names,. Call them racist,. Uneducated etc
I’m asking you how you will compare the facts that you are talking about. How will you know that the outcome is superior to the alternative?
 
No idea Bruce. Home Sec deplores Trump actions and left wing newspaper tries to turn it into something else ?....I give in, what does Trump have to do with us ?.....
help me out here @Bruce Wayne the performative condemnation from the home secretary should be enough for us to set aside the attacks on institution, attacks on judiciary, attacks on 'do gooders', threats to Ireland about food shortages, the push to repeal Human Rights legislation, a push for law and order over rule of law, increased executive intervention and power over parliamentary sovereignty, shouldn't it???
 
Just like all the financial experts in 2007 ?
Yes. Estimates were made by people who know what they are talking about. Plenty of people were calling a bubble but people get greedy. And people get things wrong. Einstein was wrong too. So was hawking who changed his original theory.

Can we agree that they were both experts in the field though? And that we should probably listen to experts in a field as they are going to be better informed to make those estimates than those outside of it?
 
Stella...Stella....dear god almighty. If this is the quality of beer that you drink no wonder you can’t understand Brexit. Have you ever visited the Ale House in here and the Beer revisited thread. Stella ffs......
Hope you read and understood the Brexit manifesto a bit better than you did my post ?

I do recognise that it did go on a bit longer than a strap-line on the side of a bus.
 
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