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[BlueDraka]

How dare they want a better society , never voting for Labour again.

Momentum is a people-powered, vibrant movement. We aim to transform the Labour Party, our communities and Britain in the interests of the many, not the few.

Our proposition is simple: if more of us come together, we can use our skills and energy to tackle every challenge head on. Using our collective power, our campaigning, networks and tech, we can transform society for the better.

From our view of the Labour Party, to how we change Britain for the better, we’re up front about where we stand.

Very idealistic but you know that will never happen. Anyway we are going around in circles so let's leave it there

 

[Moomin]

I can agree with all that. The press will and always have demonised the Labour party. It will happen at the next election. But my fear us that this idiot and his chums will be elected again. Hope I'm so wrong!

That's the problem we have on this country, no matter who is in charge with Labour the press will find an issue and push it to the extreme while singing the praises of Boris Johnson.

Murdoch has never lost an election in this country, whoever he backs always wins.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Small minority? Majority of the cabinet are right wing idiots.........as are a goodly amount of "Labour" PLP members.
Define a "left wing idiot" please. What policies do they espouse, and who are they?

Ermmm. You?

 

[Jebus_lives]

Ermmm. You?

Bit antagonistic this considering how quick you've been to be offended by this sort of 'pathetic jibe' directed at you.

 

[Methuselah]

I am gobsmacked at (certain) Republicans in the US refusing to accept the result of a democratic vote. Glad it never happens over here?

 

[Jebus_lives]

I am gobsmacked at (certain) Republicans in the US refusing to accept the result of a democratic vote. Glad it never happens over here?

I'm not gobsmacked you don't understand the difference between a referendum and an election.

 

[spectateur]

I can agree with all that. The press will and always have demonised the Labour party. It will happen at the next election. But my fear us that this idiot and his chums will be elected again. Hope I'm so wrong!

No doubt about it. Unless we get electoral reform, there will be a government going under the name "conservatives", for ever.

 

[BlueDraka]

No doubt about it. Unless we get electoral reform, there will be a government going under the name "conservatives", for ever.

Totally agree.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

The UK’s European Question is Far From Over

Kirsty Hughes argues that the UK is destined to become a satellite of the EU, and writes that the issue of Europe has become an ‘unending question’ for the whole of the UK.

ucleuropeblog.com

 

[Blues Harp]

Ermmm. You?

I hold what I would call left wing views, but I don't consider myself to be an "idiot"
You may or may not hold what I would define as centre right views.
But I don't regard you as an "idiot"
Namaste.

 

[peteblue]

I'm not sure what it is you want me to say Pete? I've already said that the approval of the vaccine clearly took longer than both the UK and US. The EU hasn't been responsible for the French government's handling of the rollout of the vaccine any more than they were responsible for the good handling of the pandemic by the Germans during the spring.

I’m not sure either tbh Bruce, I’m just posting in between lessons with my granddaughter. If you just state that ‘the EU is crap and we should have left years ago’ then I’ll call it a day....

 

[Jebus_lives]

I’m not sure either tbh Bruce, I’m just posting in between lessons with my granddaughter. If you just state that ‘the EU is crap and we should have left years ago’ then I’ll call it a day....

Pete: ok, what's 2+2?
Granddaughter: it's 5.
Pete: no it's 4.
Granddaughter: no it's 5. In my opinion it's 5.
Pete: it's 4. Here is the mathematical principle...
Granddaughter: we'll have to agree to disagree.
Pete: no we won't, I know numbers, it's 4.
Granddaughter: we can't know for sure. Maths can be wrong and it's only accepted practice.
Pete: we can know, it's 4.
Granddaughter: let's wait and see shall we?

 

[spectateur]

The EU has rightly or wrongly taken longer to approve vaccines, but it's not to blame for France's slow rollout

Slow startup in France is partly due to starting in EPIHAD care homes where protocol required signed approval from patient and their GP.
Secondly they are setting up vaccination centres mainly based on local regional hospitals. Special methods are needed to store and use the Pfizer vaccine.
First priority is to be given to the very old, then to medics, paramedics and others likely to be in contact with the sick.
Health minister has stated that all over 75s will be vaccinated by the end of the month.

 

[Methuselah]

I'm not gobsmacked you don't understand the difference between a referendum and an election.

Sounds like you support 'pick and mix' democracy. It is only democracy if you win. I do understand the difference between elections and referendums, which is why I used the term 'democratic vote'.

 

[allezlesbleus]

Lads! Can the Labour/Momentum stuff please go in the Labour party thread?
Merci et bonne continuation!!!