Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Right -
We suffer an £8bn net loss to Europe."
£500 billion cost since joining the EU


He was referring to the level of the UK's contribution to the EU Budget - there have been loads of figures for this bandied about, so here are some of the amounts you may have heard and where they come from.

The figures that most people are using are HM Treasury figures from 2014, because the figures for 2015 are only estimates at the moment.
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That's seemingly news to you, given that you keep saying £11BN or more...

Anyway, care to answer my actual point like?
 
wrong the government has already pledged the subsidie to framing and science will be backed as it is now in the EU till 2020 till we get out then we will probally have more money to go around like getting our fishing quotas back!

So we've got farming.

Are they going to pour money into deprived areas like Liverpool? The EU did and look at the turnaround in the last twenty years. This government won't.

Fishing quotas - so now we can overfish and kill the industry with no forethough for sustainability. Hopefully the government does as the EU has and sort out quotas.

Mate, basically, this money will disappear.
£350M into the NHS? No.
Subsidies for uni's? No.
Will they prop up EU projects for development (roads, shopping centres, affordable housing...) No.

I have no ideological viewpoint, I'm being largely pragmatic. If I genuinely thought that leaving was best then I would have gone for it. I don't care much for British or European nationhood.
 
That's seemingly news to you, given that you keep saying £11BN or more...

Anyway, care to answer my actual point like?
what point that you cant explain why you lost the referendum or you think the EU which is going down the plughole is great?
look its a forum but I put a BBC graph up doing a Bruce Wayne showing we are out of pocket by 8 billion per year how can that be any good???????
 
So we've got farming.

Are they going to pour money into deprived areas like Liverpool? The EU did and look at the turnaround in the last twenty years. This government won't.

Fishing quotas - so now we can overfish and kill the industry with no forethough for sustainability. Hopefully the government does as the EU has and sort out quotas.

Mate, basically, this money will disappear.
£350M into the NHS? No.
Subsidies for uni's? No.
Will they prop up EU projects for development (roads, shopping centres, affordable housing...) No.

I have no ideological viewpoint, I'm being largely pragmatic. If I genuinely thought that leaving was best then I would have gone for it. I don't care much for British or European nationhood.
it was our money
 
Really i can remember michael Heseltine funding the garden festival again probably from the slush fund of our money in the EU!

What? Did you just try to illustrate your point by mentioning the Minister for Merseyside? Might want to get some treatment for that foot you just shot.

They left this place in an unbelievable amount of decline but once paid for a garden festival.
 
I am a socialist by the way, but the EU is so right wing its dictatorship over us hopefully is over!
Junker the old soak can leave us alone!

So you voted for unfettered capitalism? Probably won't see a majority by the left for years, so you thought, I'll leave this one to the Tories.
 
What? Did you just try to illustrate your point by mentioning the Minister for Merseyside? Might want to get some treatment for that foot you just shot.

They left this place in an unbelievable amount of decline but once paid for a garden festival.
Yes it went into decline, if Liverpool one went into decline if we were in the EU do you think they would bail us out if we remained no chance!
 
Yes it went into decline, if Liverpool one went into decline if we were in the EU do you think they would bail us out if we remained no chance!

Article from before the referendum. I suggest you have a read.

Our area has quite a lot to be grateful to the EU for, more than 2 billion euros in fact.

Given the current debate taking place about our relationship with Europe in the wake of David Cameron wielding his veto last week I thought it salient to remember how Merseyside has benefitted from the EU.

Been to a show at the arena? The EU helped pay for that. Caught a flight to Ibiza or Lanzarote from Liverpool John Lennon Airport? The EU helped pay for the airport's expansion.

In fact the EU has been involved in funding most of the major projects that have taken place across the region in the past decade and a half.

Walk through any town centre across Merseyside and you will be able to spot investments that were paid for with European funding.

The region's love affair with continental funding started in 1994 when £700m of funding was allocated under the Objective 1 programme. In 2000 another £928m followed. Between 2007 and 2013 the North West is sharing another £700m, and Europe is set to agree to £450m for Merseyside to be spent between 2014 and 2020.

Objective 1 contributed funds to more than 1,802 projects between 2000 and 2008 - that is a whole lot of things that might would not have happened without the EU.

The investment in Merseyside has seen the country move from one of the poorest areas in Europe into a "transition region". That means its GDP is between 75% and 90% of the EU average.

Cllr Flo Clucas, former deputy leader of Liverpool council and an expert on Europe, in 2009 said: "In 1994, something wonderful happened, we were given Objective 1 status.

"If we had not had it, my city would have gone into a decline and we would never have recovered."

In the same year Phil Woolas, former North West minister, predicted Merseyside's population would have plummeted by up to 20%.

"The big point of Objective 1 is actually what would it have been like if we had not got it," he said.

"My guess is that it would have been pretty disastrous, and Merseyside would not be in the position it is in today.

"The population would probably have been 10% to 20% less than it is.

"Investment would have probably been half what it is, and the city would have been written off. Because it lost confidence in the 1980s, people had lost confidence in it.

"Objective 1 has meant that we have been able to get money from right across the European Union to create a prosperous trading partner."

Critics of the EU will point out that the UK puts far more into the EU than it takes out.

But do you really think any UK government would have handed over quite so much money to regions like Merseyside to spend on its own priorities?


The EU was voted out by 74.5 million citizens are they all tories then?

No it wasn't.
 
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